Love 2.0: How to Move On
Host Shankar Vedantam speaks with psychologist Antonio Pascual Leone about why breakups are so difficult, the emotional mistakes people commonly make when relationships end, and practical therapeutic tools such as structured grief lists, narrative reframing, letter writing, and empty-chair dialogues to help people process loss and create their own sense of closure. In the second half, cognitive scientist Phil Fernback discusses the illusion of knowledge-why we routinely overestimate how much we understand, how this affects domains like politics, medicine, and everyday decision-making, and how to cultivate greater intellectual humility and curiosity in conversations with others.
Quinlan Walther: Stop Chasing Love Just Because You're Lonely! (Do THIS to Attract the RIGHT Relationship)
Jay Shetty interviews relationship coach and writer Quinlan Walther about how to stop chasing love from a place of loneliness and instead build the self-trust and clarity needed to choose healthy relationships. They discuss the difference between wanting and being ready for a relationship, the four C's of self-trust, emotional safety and growth in partnership, compatibility versus chemistry, patterns rooted in childhood wounds, boundaries, and how to navigate heartbreak. The conversation emphasizes accountability, values-based decisions, and seeing love as an ongoing action rather than just a feeling.