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On Purpose with Jay Shetty

Gabrielle Bernstein: The Simple 4-Step Method to Heal Anxiety, Stop Overthinking, and Stop People-Pleasing for Good

with Gabrielle Bernstein

Published November 12, 2025
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About This Episode

Gabrielle Bernstein discusses Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy and how it transformed her life, explaining the model of "parts" and the concept of Self as a calm, compassionate inner presence. She and the host explore how protector parts like anxiety, addiction, control, people-pleasing, and workaholism develop to guard against childhood pain, and how befriending rather than banishing them can reduce anxiety, overthinking, and people-pleasing. Gabrielle teaches a simple four-step daily check-in process, guides a live exercise, and shows how this work can improve self-judgment, relationships, parenting, boundaries, leadership, and self-forgiveness.

Topics Covered

Anxiety Trauma Therapy Personal Development Mental health Relationships Boundaries Parenting and child development Alcohol addiction and recovery Self-talk

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Quick Takeaways

  • Internal Family Systems (IFS) views our extreme reactions and behaviors as protector parts that are trying to keep us safe, not as flaws to be eradicated.
  • The "Self" in IFS is an inner state defined by calm, curiosity, compassion, courage, clarity, confidence, creativity, and connection, which is always present beneath our protectors.
  • A simple four-step check-in-focus inward, get curious, offer compassion, and then check for self-can quickly reduce reactivity and reconnect you to Self in about a minute a day.
  • Judgment, including harsh self-criticism, is often a protector that numbs deeper feelings of shame or unlovability and can be softened by listening to what it needs.
  • The more connected you are to Self, the less you depend on external validation and the more your boundaries, work, and relationships become clear and sustainable.
  • Speaking "for" your parts (naming them and their triggers) instead of "as" them helps you repair conflicts and communicate more honestly in relationships and at work.
  • Self-forgiveness and befriending even the most destructive parts, like addiction, is essential before making amends or trying to repair damaged relationships.
  • Parents who do their own parts work become more self-led at home, giving children the calm, regulated presence they need to feel safe.
  • High achievement driven by protectors often leads to burnout, whereas self-led ambition allows you to do less, with clearer focus, and attract more of what you want.

Podcast Notes

Introduction and Gabrielle Bernstein's background

Host introduces the theme of the show and Gabrielle

On Purpose is framed as the place to become happier, healthier, and more healed[1:50]
Gabrielle Bernstein is introduced as a dear friend, multiple-time number one New York Times bestselling author, spiritual teacher, and speaker[2:05]
Her new book "Self-Help" brings Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy into everyday life[2:28]

Gabby and the host reflect on their history together

They first met about nine years ago when the host had a new show at HuffPost called Follow the Reader[3:01]
Gabby was one of his first guests and they became instant friends and she became a mentor[3:18]
Gabby recalls walking out of that first interview and telling her publicist that she knew they would be friends and that the host was a future superstar[3:37]

Importance of IFS and Gabby's impact

The host notes that his wife interviewed Gabby and was deeply impacted by learning about IFS for the first time[3:51]
He says his wife had no idea how powerful Internal Family Systems was until that conversation[4:03]
Gabby is described as a leading voice on wellness stages worldwide, inspiring millions through talks, courses, and online community[2:36]

Internal Family Systems (IFS) overview and origins

What is Internal Family Systems therapy?

Gabby describes IFS as the therapy that changed her life[4:33]
IFS is a practice of befriending the activated parts of ourselves, especially the aspects we like the least[4:34]
These parts include hypervigilance, addiction, extreme behaviors, and limiting belief patterns[4:44]
Rather than shutting these parts off or judging them, IFS invites us to get into relationship with them[5:09]
• Common internal dialogue like "I hate that part of myself" is reframed into curiosity and relationship
Gabby emphasizes that these parts are like little children inside trying to protect us[5:19]

How childhood experiences create protector parts

She explains that as children we all experience trauma with a big T or small t, such as bullying, abuse, or having an alcoholic parent[5:50]
The intense feelings of terror, being unlovable, or inadequate were so extreme that we did whatever we could to avoid feeling them again[6:18]
We built protection mechanisms like controlling, people-pleasing, perfectionism, rage, or addiction[6:27]
These protection mechanisms become "protector parts" that run the show in our lives[6:41]

Concept of Self in IFS

In IFS the goal is to get to know these protector parts and soften toward them, recognizing them as young children needing care[7:00]
IFS calls our core inner resource "Self", which is why Gabby titled her book "Self-Help"[7:08]
Gabby says her intention with the book is to democratize, demystify, and simplify this therapeutic model[7:17]
Self is described as like the sun behind the clouds; when the clouds (protectors) dissipate, the sun (Self) naturally emerges[14:12]
Qualities of Self include being calm, courageous, curious, connected, clear, creative, confident, and compassionate, often with a childlike wonder[14:49]
• Gabby notes that the host interviews with a lot of Self energy, which helps listeners feel healed in his presence
Self is always present but gets blocked by protector parts; it never actually leaves us[15:24]

Gabby's personal journey with IFS and the urgency of inner work

How Gabby discovered and trained in IFS

Gabby worked with the same therapist for seven or eight years and midway through remembered extreme childhood trauma in a dream[8:18]
Her therapist began using IFS with her to work through that trauma, focusing on parts like the addict, anxiety, rage, and controller[8:44]
Gabby found it difficult at first because she was being asked to connect with the very parts that had been blocking the trauma memories[8:53]
In 2020, while at home, she randomly watched a YouTube video by Dr. Richard Schwartz and realized he was describing the therapy she was already doing[9:03]
She invited Schwartz onto her podcast as one of her first guests to learn more, and he encouraged her to get formal training[9:30]
• Gabby was one of the last non-licensed therapists allowed to do the IFS facilitator training, which she describes as divinely timed
She says training as a facilitator caused IFS to become deeply integrated in her system and accelerated her own healing[10:00]
Realizing therapy is expensive and not widely accessible, she felt compelled to make IFS tools easy and accessible, especially now when people need inner safety[10:12]

Recognizing parts as the first step

Gabby says to start by simply recognizing that there are parts of you that get activated[10:29]
Common indicators are statements like "there's a part of me that gets really angry when..." or "a part of me checks out around my parents"[10:34]
She emphasizes these parts are not all of who you are; they are parts of who you are, and they are protection mechanisms[10:56]
First practice is being a nonjudgmental witness to these parts, especially those you've judged or hated for a long time[11:09]
When you ask how long a part has been around, the answer is usually "as long as I can remember" or "since I was a kid"[11:16]
You then ask what the part is really trying to do and see that it is trying to protect you[11:26]
Gabby shares that she has been sober for 20 years and can now look back at her cocaine-addicted 25-year-old part with love and gratitude for keeping down feelings she wasn't ready to face[11:45]

Types of protector parts and spiritual dimension of the work

Gabby lists her own protector parts: controller, anxiety, addict, and a defensive part she named "Knives Out" that would come out if someone messed with her[12:34]
She also names workaholism as a praised yet destructive part that led her to write a book a year while causing internal chaos[13:00]
She notes that some protectors, like workaholism, are often praised by society even while they are destroying us[13:04]
She emphasizes that IFS is deeply spiritual work, marrying therapeutic processes with spiritual experience and faith[13:40]

Four-step IFS check-in method for daily use

Why doing the work matters even when you're exhausted

Gabby challenges the idea that self-help practices are "too hard", arguing that life without a foundation of spiritual or therapeutic tools is actually much harder[16:54]
She says this is a critical time; without some inner connection to wisdom, intuition, and guidance, people feel unstable, anxious, and scared[17:23]
Anyone listening to the conversation is already 90% of the way there because they are seeking tools to self-soothe and feel safe inside[18:01]
Her four-step process is designed to be a simplified, safe way to work with day-to-day protector mechanisms rather than diving directly into deeply traumatized exiled parts[18:29]

Overview of the four-step check-in process

She calls it the four-step check-in process, focused on checking in with a part instead of checking out[19:02]
She gives an example of being triggered by a boss and choosing to step away to the bathroom to check in before reacting[19:23]
Step 1: Focus your attention inward-close your eyes if you can and look inside[19:41]
Step 2: Curiosity-ask where the part lives in your body and notice sensations, thoughts, feelings, or images associated with it[20:25]
• You might notice tension in the jaw, stomach, chest, or shoulders, or see an image like being five years old on a playground with a bully
Step 3: Compassion-ask the part directly, not yourself, "What do you need?"[20:33]
• Parts often ask for things like dancing, rest, play, or love-things that return them to a childlike state
Step 4: Check for Self-notice whether you feel calmer, more compassionate, connected, clear, courageous, creative, or confident[21:03]
She stresses that even a slight increase in calm or clarity means you have accessed Self[21:20]
She prescribes doing this for one minute a day, saying four simple steps in one minute is manageable for almost everyone[21:31]
Once people experience it once, they realize they can use it at night with anxiety, after difficult conversations, or whenever activated[21:50]

Shifting experience rather than external circumstances

Gabby reiterates a theme from her metaphysical teaching: miracles occur when we change the way we experience something, not necessarily the external situation itself[22:10]

Motivation, spiritual proof, and returning to inner guidance

Rediscovering inner guidance instead of outsourcing decisions

The host appreciates that IFS returns people to being guided from within rather than relying on parents, friends, family, social media, or group chats for answers[26:43]
He notes that our bodies, hearts, and minds can guide us if we sit with ourselves, and the four-step practice enables that[27:08]
He points out that many people know what they should do but never do practices properly enough to have a qualitative experience that convinces them to continue[27:43]

How to begin and the role of "rock bottom" moments

Gabby says self begets more self; first step is asking, "Is this it?" and "Is this all I've got here?"[28:13]
She references a Mary Oliver quote about "this one beautiful life" and asks whether you will take it to the max and live to the highest and best[28:53]
She notes some listeners may be hitting a massive bottom-ending an addiction, going through divorce, crisis at work, job loss, or diagnosis[29:33]
She quotes Rumi: "The wound is the place where the light enters you", highlighting how crises open people to change[29:22]
Key question at bottom is: "Am I willing to do whatever it takes to get to great?"[29:48]
She cites a 12-step saying: "If you want what they have, do what they do"-if you want inner peace, follow the practices of those who have it[30:12]

Developing an internal parent and realizing "the one you've been waiting for"

As you tend to your parts, they feel seen; like a child, they need to be seen, soothed, loved, and calmed by compassionate energy[30:59]
Gabby says you start to feel like you have an internal parent and recognize that the external validation and support you've been seeking is actually inside you[31:06]
She quotes Dick Schwartz: "the one you've been waiting for" is inside you[31:06]

Self-validation, inner critic, and judgment as protectors

External validation versus self-validation

In Gabby's experience, the more connection she has to Self, the less external validation she needs[32:04]
She notes that the more Self you embody, the more Self you attract in others and in circumstances, because you receive back what you vibrate out[32:53]
The host observes that external validation can never fully satisfy because others haven't lived your sleepless nights or traumas[33:30]
He says only self-validation truly affects him deeply because only he has "the record books" of everything he has been through[34:12]

A vivid experience of Self at the lake

Gabby recounts sitting alone on a dock at a simple lake club while her six-and-a-half-year-old son played independently[34:42]
After playing tennis, she sat in a bathing suit with an iced coffee and felt an incredible energy pour through her[35:28]
She describes this as spirit or Self-energy: fully present, in the moment, with nothing else on her mind[35:37]
In that moment she thought, "This is what we've been training for" and emphasizes that this state isn't fleeting-it can be a way of living[35:54]
She notes that with this work, triggers become shorter (years become days, minutes, or seconds) and self-led presence increases[36:12]
She calls these moments "spiritual proof"-once you taste even a small shift from the four steps, you naturally crave more[36:26]

Judgment and self-criticism as protector parts

Gabby says self-judgment is a huge protector and has written previously about judgment as a pattern[37:06]
She explains that when deep feelings of inadequacy or unlovability are activated, we will do almost anything to numb that pain[37:33]
One way is to judge and attack ourselves, because it feels easier than fully feeling the underlying pain[37:46]
With the four-step practice, you don't have to re-experience all the pain; you just attend to what the protector needs in the moment, allowing it to soften[37:56]

Using journaling to work with the inner critic

Gabby suggests that if you notice a judgment hangover, you can check in with the judgment part using journaling[38:51]
She recommends writing at the top of a page: "I choose to check in with my judgment"[38:51]
Then ask the part questions like "What are you trying to tell me?" and "What do you need?" and let your pen flow in a stream of consciousness[39:16]
You continue through the four steps on the page: check in, curiosity, compassion (what do you need?), and then "How do I feel now?"[42:47]
The host likens this to how we would comfort a crying child-asking what happened and if they're okay-while noticing we treat our own crying parts with "go away" energy[39:55]
Gabby notes that if a child in your life was scared, you would instinctively respond with calm, connection, and curiosity, yet we are often harsh and aggressive toward ourselves[42:29]

Live four-step check-in exercise and debrief

Guiding listeners through a real-time check-in

Gabby says she doesn't want to just talk about the practice; she wants listeners to experience it now[40:01]
She invites everyone (who isn't driving) to close their eyes and choose a protector part that gets activated, such as control, addiction, or numbing behaviors[41:21]
Step 1: Focus attention inward and choose to check in with the part[41:21]
Step 2: With curiosity, notice where the part lives in your body, any shape or color, and any words, thoughts, or memories attached[41:21]
She encourages taking a deep breath and letting the part know it is safe to show more[41:21]
She asks listeners to notice if there is anything else the part wants them to know[42:24]
Step 3: She has listeners ask the part compassionately, "What do you need?" and listen without overthinking or judgment[42:29]
She suggests placing a hand on the heart and belly, breathing, and letting the part know you have listened and are here[42:47]
Step 4: She invites listeners to check how they feel and notice any increase in calm, compassion toward the part, curiosity, connection, clarity, creative energy, courage, or confidence[44:05]
She says even the slightest molecule of Self qualities means you did the exercise perfectly; if you feel worse, that's fine too because you still tried[43:49]

Host's experience with the exercise

The host shares that the exercise allowed him to approach something head-on that he would normally avoid[47:49]
His usual reaction would be irritation and self-blame like "Why do I do this?", but instead he was able to sit with the part in a pleasant, compassionate way[47:42]
He realized he could see the protector as having been needed and useful, and felt gratitude toward it rather than contempt[48:15]
Gabby labels his experience as a lot of Self-clarity, calmness, and compassion toward himself[49:08]

Speaking for parts rather than as parts

Gabby explains that with practice you can speak for your parts rather than as your parts[49:49]
She gives an example of her "Knives Out" part, which historically lashed out at her husband when she felt shame[50:45]
After an incident where she felt shamed about parenting, "Knives Out" erupted, and later her husband said he didn't know what to do with that part[50:22]
She later apologized and said she had been taken over by the part, speaking for it by explaining that when she feels shame, that part "goes crazy"[50:56]
She clarifies that speaking for a part is not an excuse but a way of taking ownership and continuing to work with it[52:21]
She notes that in work environments you can speak for parts by telling a boss you get flustered when you don't know the answer, so they understand your reactions[52:30]
In dating, someone might say early on that they have an anxious attachment part that may act "nuts" at times, which she would find attractive honesty[52:52]
She mentions that the film "Inside Out" is based on IFS and she uses it as a reference when talking to kids about their parts[53:16]

Applying IFS in relationships, parenting, self-forgiveness, and leadership

Introducing partners to inner work without forcing it

Gabby recounts a time she was deep into a yoga practice, wearing a turban and whites, and trying to get her husband to do long breathwork with her[57:32]
Her teacher told her, "The second you walk in the door, take off the turban and shut up," which she now uses as advice: don't force your practice on your partner[58:02]
She emphasizes that you must do your own work; when you rise, you give your partner a chance to rise with you, and if they don't, that may be a sign to move on[58:13]
She notes that her husband has his own path; he won't do long meditations or ashrams, but he will do Self-Help check-ins with her[58:57]

Repairing relationships after parts have pushed people away

Gabby says the key concept is "repair", especially for addicts who may have created a lot of wreckage[1:00:13]
She references the 12-step practice of making amends[59:42]
She explains that you first need inner self-forgiveness for the parts that acted out, because without it you'll need others' forgiveness to make you feel okay[1:00:19]
Once you've forgiven and accepted your parts, Self (which she equates with spirit or God and love inside you) will show you when and how to make amends[1:01:22]
She says you may or may not receive others' forgiveness, but you won't need it in the same way[1:01:45]

Using IFS with children and in parenting

Gabby mentions Dr. Becky Kennedy as a friend who integrates a lot of IFS into her parenting work[1:02:02]
She says children, especially deeply feeling kids (DFKs), need their parents' Self-energy[1:02:15]
Children regulate with their parents' energy, so the more Self the parent has, the better they can co-regulate the child[1:02:42]
She states that children need a self-led leader in the home, not a parent dominated by their own child parts[1:02:59]
With some kids, you can go through the four steps directly; with her own son, who dislikes overtly therapeutic language, she uses casual questions like "Yo, bro, how are you feeling?"[1:03:30]

Community of parts language and potential misuse

Gabby describes calls with Richard Schwartz and others where everyone openly speaks about their parts, e.g., warning that an aggressive excited part might show up[1:04:12]
She imagines a world where people routinely say, "I want to speak for a part of myself before I act like an asshole"[1:04:32]
In response to a question, she acknowledges that people could misuse parts language as an excuse, similar to other spiritual bypassing[1:04:38]
She insists the intention is to take ownership of parts, befriend them, and care for them rather than hide behind them[1:07:09]

When is being hard on yourself useful?

Gabby says all protector parts have valuable roles; for example, her workaholic part created chaos but also helped her write 10 books in 14 years and serve many people[1:07:09]
She calls some parts "self-like parts"-they resemble Self more than harsh protectors but are not pure Self[1:07:09]
The key question is not whether a part is good or bad, but whether it is extreme; extremity signals a protector that needs attention[1:08:28]
She explains that praised traits like perfectionism, intense work ethic, or overtraining can be extreme protectors despite external praise[1:08:34]

How Self transforms protectors instead of eliminating them

Gabby clarifies that parts do not have to go away; through befriending, they return to their natural, healthy roles[1:09:40]
Her workaholic part still helps her show up for a full schedule, but in a less extreme, more intentional way with more fun and childlike energy[1:09:57]
She notes that friends have commented on how youthful and childlike she seems now, which she attributes to unburdening[1:10:23]

Ambition, pace, and Self-led work

Gabby agrees that high-performing entrepreneurs often have many shadow parts driving them, and those parts contribute to their external success[1:09:51]
She says achievement is not a sign of Self-energy; it's usually a sign of protectors working hard[1:09:51]
When you cultivate Self, you don't necessarily go slower; you gain more boundaries, better decisions, and clearer relationships[1:11:10]
With Self, you can move very fast but in a highly intentional way, often doing less and attracting more[1:12:12]

Boundaries, people-pleasing, and the "if I don't do it" part

The host gives an example of two friends with conflicting "boundaries" around inviting everyone versus a small group, highlighting people-pleasing[1:14:26]
Gabby observes that wanting to invite everyone likely reflects a people-pleasing part, while the other friend may have clearer boundaries[1:15:20]
She reiterates that boundaries can also be protectors if they are extreme or misaligned with Self[1:16:16]
She shares a long-term protector: a part that believed "If I don't do it, nobody else will" which persisted until about a year ago[1:17:43]
That part led her to take on everything, prevent others from rising, and avoid asking for what she wanted, resulting in burnout[1:17:36]
She worked with that part intensively-checking in daily, journaling with it for at least a year, and bringing it to IFS therapy, especially during COVID[1:18:34]
Now she can tell team members directly, "That's your job, not my job", and she is less resentful because she is no longer overfunctioning and silently angry[1:20:32]

Self-led leadership and a world of "parts chaos"

Gabby cites Dick Schwartz's idea of self-led leaders and argues IFS is crucial for anyone in leadership, especially now[1:19:41]
She describes the current world as full of damaged parts and "parts chaos", with divisiveness in countries and movements often driven by protector rage[1:21:23]
She stresses that activism is important but should be infused with Self-energy to avoid burnout and reactivity[1:21:23]
She says the only way to change the trajectory we are on is for individuals to do this inner healing and then bring self-led energy into their local communities[1:30:43]

Conclusion and rapid-fire "final five" questions

Best and worst advice Gabby has received

Best advice: "Befriend the parts of yourself inside"[1:23:06]
She elaborates that we often condemn jobs, partners, or parts of ourselves after they stop being useful, instead of honoring what they did for us[1:24:43]
She gives the example of an addict part that kept someone alive through difficult times and deserves gratitude even as you outgrow it[1:25:06]
Worst advice: to stop doing YouTube and start blogging, which she now sees as a poor fit for her as a storyteller and speaker[1:25:38]
She notes she is now rebuilding her YouTube channel and emphasizes forgiving yourself for past choices and starting again[1:25:33]

Practical self-forgiveness and choosing again

The host asks how to move past wrong turns like bad advice or relationships without staying stuck in regret[1:26:00]
Gabby calls herself a master at self-forgiveness and says it's a choice to either carry burdens from the past or step into current opportunities[1:26:44]
She describes talking to herself after a misstep: "Okay, we did that again. How do I need to clean it up? Who do I make amends to? What part do I check in with? How do I choose again?"[1:27:20]
She affirms that her clearest focus now is where she wants to put her energy, including YouTube[1:29:26]

Shifts in what Gabby values and her one universal law

Something she used to value but no longer does is external validation; she still appreciates it but no longer needs it[1:29:33]
If she could create one law everyone had to follow, it would be: "Get to know your parts" and heal on the inside[1:29:56]
She believes that if everyone did this kind of work, we would not be throwing our wounds around and the world would be very different[1:30:06]

Lessons Learned

Actionable insights and wisdom you can apply to your business, career, and personal life.

1

Your most problematic behaviors and emotions are often protector parts trying to keep you safe, and healing begins when you befriend them instead of fighting or suppressing them.

Reflection Questions:

  • • What recurring behavior or reaction in your life might actually be a protector part working hard on your behalf?
  • • How could you begin approaching that behavior with curiosity and gratitude rather than judgment this week?
  • • When you next feel triggered, what is one gentle question you could ask that part (for example, "What are you trying to do for me?")?
2

Regularly checking in with yourself using a simple structure-focus inward, get curious, offer compassion, then check for Self-can quickly reduce reactivity and build an inner foundation of calm and clarity.

Reflection Questions:

  • • When during your day are you most likely to react on autopilot instead of pausing to check in?
  • • How might committing to a one-minute daily check-in for the next seven days change the way you handle stress or conflict?
  • • Where could you schedule a recurring reminder (phone, calendar, notebook) to practice a four-step check-in before a predictable stressor?
3

Self-validation is uniquely powerful because only you know the full depth of what you've lived through; the more you cultivate Self, the less you depend on external approval to feel whole.

Reflection Questions:

  • • In what situations do you notice yourself craving external validation the most, and what might that be masking internally?
  • • How could you acknowledge and honor your own effort or resilience today without waiting for anyone else to notice?
  • • What simple self-validation ritual (like a nightly reflection or journal entry) could you start to reinforce your own recognition of your journey?
4

Speaking for your parts (naming what got activated and why) instead of from your parts transforms conflict into repair and builds trust in relationships and at work.

Reflection Questions:

  • • Think of a recent argument or misunderstanding-what part of you was likely running the show in that moment?
  • • How might that conversation have gone differently if you had later said, "A part of me felt X when Y happened," instead of defending your reaction?
  • • Who in your life could benefit if you began to name your parts more openly and take ownership of their triggers?
5

Self-led ambition is more sustainable and effective than protector-driven hustle; when you unburden workaholic or perfectionist parts, you can do less, choose better, and still achieve more.

Reflection Questions:

  • • Where in your work or goals do you sense an extreme, anxious, or relentless energy that might be coming from a protector part?
  • • How could you experiment with setting one clearer boundary around your time or workload and notice whether your effectiveness actually improves?
  • • What would "moving fast but intentionally" look like in your current projects if you were guided by calm clarity rather than pressure or fear?
6

Genuine repair and amends-especially after addiction or intense protectors have caused damage-start with self-forgiveness; you can't rely on others' forgiveness to make you feel whole.

Reflection Questions:

  • • Is there a past behavior or season of your life you still secretly condemn yourself for, even though it once helped you survive?
  • • How might your attempts to apologize or repair a relationship change if you first did the inner work of forgiving the part of you that acted out?
  • • What is one concrete way you could begin practicing self-forgiveness this week (through journaling, therapy, or a specific inner dialogue)?

Episode Summary - Notes by Harper

Gabrielle Bernstein: The Simple 4-Step Method to Heal Anxiety, Stop Overthinking, and Stop People-Pleasing for Good
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