651. The Ultimate Dance Partner
This episode explores the past and present of horses, from their central role in ancient empires and industrial America to their modern status as high-value sport animals in disciplines like dressage. Economist-equestrians and historians explain how horses evolved from "living machines" that powered cities to luxury goods shaped by opaque markets, billionaires, and specialized breeding. The host then visits a New Jersey dressage barn to see training up close and even rides a high-level sport horse himself to experience the human-horse partnership.
A Question-Asker Becomes a Question-Answerer
In this feed-drop conversation from Design Matters, Stephen J. Dubner talks with Debbie Millman about his life, from a turbulent religious upbringing and early encouragement from a beloved teacher to his time in a rock band and eventual career as a writer and podcaster. They explore how inhabiting two faith traditions shaped his views on identity and belief, the power of curiosity, the making and impact of Freakonomics, his struggles with hero worship and anonymity, and his evolving thinking on creativity, confidence, and the human side of economics.