Joe Rogan talks with comedian and impressionist Adam Ray about his character work, including his Dr. Phil act, playing Joe Biden opposite Shane Gillis as Trump, and impersonating Tony Hinchcliffe on Kill Tony. They veer into wide-ranging topics like lottery odds and payout structures, private investigator stories from Rogan's past, performance-enhancing drugs in sports, MMA talent pipelines, VR and active gaming, reality TV, religion, sociopathy, and how stand-up careers are shaped today by clips and social media. Adam also shares early experiences with impressions, an early-career firing for doing an off-color joke on a "clean" weekend, and plans for new characters and his touring.
Criminal psychologist Julia Shaw discusses the psychology of "evil" as a continuum of traits, covering the dark tetrad, serial killers, murder, and why ordinary people can commit horrific acts under certain conditions. She explains her research on false memories and how easily they can be implanted or distorted, the limits of lie detection and intuitive judgments like creepiness, and how these insights apply to therapy, policing, AI systems, and environmental crime. She also talks about sexuality, bisexuality, polyamory, sexual fantasies and kinks, and her work on green crime and the psychology of those who commit serious environmental offenses.