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The Tim Ferriss Show

#833: Jack Canfield - Selling 600+ Million Books, Success Principles, and How He Made The 4-Hour Workweek Happen

with Jack Canfield

Published October 29, 2025
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About This Episode

Tim Ferriss interviews Jack Canfield about his life, from a difficult childhood and early teaching career to becoming co-creator of the Chicken Soup for the Soul series and author of The Success Principles. Jack explains how mentorship from W. Clement Stone shaped his views on responsibility, goal setting, and success, and details the persistence and grassroots marketing that turned Chicken Soup for the Soul into a global phenomenon. He also discusses plant medicine experiences, limiting beliefs, decluttering "messes," aging, and why he is partly retiring to focus on family and creative hobbies.

Topics Covered

Personal development Goal setting Entrepreneurship Mental health Trauma Therapy Longevity Lifestyle design Happiness Book marketing and promotion

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Quick Takeaways

  • Jack attributes much of his later success to early mentorship from W. Clement Stone, who taught him 100% responsibility, goal setting, affirmations, and the importance of rigorous action.
  • Chicken Soup for the Soul was rejected by 144 publishers and sold to a house that initially expected only 20,000 copies, but Jack and his co-author drove sales to roughly 1.3 million copies in 18 months through relentless interviews and grassroots outreach.
  • Jack emphasizes that unconscious limiting beliefs, often formed in early childhood, can silently sabotage efforts even when people are using tools like visualization and affirmations.
  • He uses the "Rule of Five"-taking at least five meaningful actions every day toward a goal-as a simple framework for compounding progress over time.
  • Clearing "messes" and incompletions in finances, relationships, and physical spaces frees up mental attention units and energy for high-value work and creativity.
  • Plant medicine experiences, including multiple ayahuasca journeys, helped Jack release deep animosities, reevaluate his drive for significance, and decide to slow down and prioritize family and hobbies.
  • Jack believes live feedback from audiences is crucial before writing or scaling content; he tests stories and ideas in talks to see what truly resonates.
  • He maintains that blaming and complaining never improve outcomes, while consciously choosing responses (thoughts, images, and behaviors) can radically change results.
  • Even late in life and with substantial financial success, Jack continues to refine habits-such as regular meditation, cleanses, and exercise-to stay mentally sharp and energetic.
  • He is intentionally transitioning away from being "the chicken soup guy" toward legacy work around success principles and belief-change processes.

Podcast Notes

Introduction and Jack Canfield's role in Tim's career

Tim introduces Jack and his accomplishments

Jack's professional bio and impact[0:16]
• Tim lists Jack as a bestselling author, speaker, trainer, entrepreneur, founder and CEO of the Canfield Training Group, and co-author of more than 200 books including "The Success Principles" and "Chicken Soup for the Soul" series.
• Tim notes that Chicken Soup for the Soul includes 40 New York Times bestsellers and has sold more than 600 million copies in 50+ languages.
• Jack has conducted live trainings for more than a million people in over 50 countries and holds two Guinness World Records and is in the National Speakers Association's Speakers Hall of Fame.
Tim credits Jack with making his own career possible[1:56]
• Tim says the 4-Hour Workweek would not have happened without Jack, who introduced him to Stephen Hanselman, then a former superstar editor becoming an agent.
• Tim describes this introduction as a major sliding-door moment, noting he hoped Jack would say his notes were not a book, but instead Jack immediately began making introductions.

Early connection between Tim and Jack via volunteering and speaking events

Tim's volunteering in Silicon Valley and inviting Jack[3:15]
• Tim recalls being in his late 20s, broke, driving his mother's broken minivan, listening to Tony Robbins' Personal Power 2 on cassette while commuting on Highway 101 and eating cheap meals in parking lots.
• He volunteered for the Silicon Valley Association of Startup Entrepreneurs (SVASE), took on extra tasks, and was eventually allowed to organize speakers for a main event.
• Tim used this role to invite people he admired, including Trip Hawkins and Jack Canfield, and notes Jack graciously agreed, leading to their first meeting more than 20 years before this podcast.
Tim reflects on opportunity and Jack compliments his initiative[4:40]
• Tim views these as "sliding door" moments and thanks Jack repeatedly; Jack replies that Tim knows how to take advantage of opportunities.

Chicken Soup in China and contract lessons

Story behind 300+ million copies sold in China

Anhui Publishing and textbook deal[5:26]
• Jack explains that Anhui Publishing in China decided to publish Chicken Soup and they had a contract for 10 cents per book sold.
• Anhui was half government and half private equity; they made the book a high school English textbook with Chinese on one side and English on the other, printing millions of copies.
• Because it was on the government school side, Jack says they did not receive a single penny of royalties from those millions of copies.
Impact and lessons from the China experience[5:16]
• Jack notes that many Chinese people had major transformations from the books, and the textbook exposure drove later general-public sales when kids showed the books to their parents.
• He summarizes the "major lesson" as the need for much better contracts and to be very careful when making proposals in China, describing Chinese negotiators as very clever.
• Tim adds a Chinese expression roughly meaning "if you can trick them, then you should trick them," emphasizing the need to keep one's wits about them in business there.

Jack's childhood, education, and early teaching career

Family background and growing up poor

Military family and parental divorce[7:24]
• Jack was born in 1944; his father trained bomber pilots in the Air Force during World War II, and the family moved between three states on military bases until Jack was six.
• At six, they moved to Wheeling, West Virginia, a steel and coal town; his father was an alcoholic who became violent when drunk, and Jack's mother divorced him and moved Jack to his grandmother's house, where he lived in the attic for years.
Stepfather, poverty, and early work ethic[8:15]
• Jack's mother later married his stepfather, a Navy veteran; Jack says they were poor and his stepfather, when Jack left for college, gave him $20 and told him, "If you need a helping hand, look at the end of your own arm. There will be no more gifts coming from me."
• Jack worked his way through high school, including as a lifeguard at a country club pool, describing himself as "in but not of" that country club world.
Military school and unexpected opportunity via his aunt[8:27]
• From fifth grade through high school graduation, Jack attended a private military school; his wealthy aunt had a son named Jack who died, and because Jack shared the same name, she adopted him and paid for his private schooling.
• He notes that if his name had been Bob instead of Jack, this wouldn't have happened, underscoring how contingent his educational advantage was.
Admission to Harvard and working through college[9:56]
• Jack got into Harvard on a scholarship to play football, having been an honorable mention all-state end.
• He worked various jobs to support himself, including cutting grass, cleaning dorms, and serving food at 6 a.m., which left him so exhausted he would fall asleep in his 9 a.m. French class.
• He recalls a French professor waking him at the end of class and telling him to leave, illustrating how overworked he was.

Choosing Chinese history and discovering human potential

Chinese history major and an "easy A" path[10:35]
• Jack says he graduated Harvard "in the half of the class that made the top half possible," and after getting all Cs his freshman year, asked his counselor for an easy A.
• He was directed to a course taught by a former ambassador to China who knew Chiang Kai-shek and Mao Zedong and gave everyone As; Jack took it, earned an A, and fell in love with Chinese history, which became his major.
Encounter group class and falling in love with psychology[13:03]
• Seeking another easy A his senior year, he took Social Relations 10, an encounter group class where students just talked about their feelings and everyone received an A.
• In that course he discovered human potential topics-psychology, human behavior, feelings, motivation-which captivated him and made him want to pursue that field.
Graduate education and teaching in inner-city Chicago[14:27]
• Advisers told him it was too late to major in psychology as an undergrad, but that he could enter through education, so he got a master's degree in education at the University of Chicago.
• He taught at an all-Black inner-city high school for two years, was named Teacher of the Year in his first year, and became involved in Jesse Jackson's church and the jazz community.

Motivating students and early exposure to success principles

Why Jack was named Teacher of the Year

Context of school integration and teacher attitudes[14:40]
• Jack describes his school as having shifted from all white and Jewish to predominantly Black within about five years, prompting white flight to the suburbs and leaving many teachers who did not want to be there and often treated students poorly.
Introducing Black history and human potential exercises[15:55]
• He found a paperback called "Before the Mayflower" by Lerone Bennett Jr. and bought a copy for every student, teaching African-American history alongside traditional history.
• Students appreciated that he presented history written from their perspective and that he was loving, kind, motivational, and believed they could achieve, leading them to see him as being on their side.
• He sponsored the African-American Studies Club at students' request, coached the swim team using his own swimming background, and integrated daily human potential activities such as an "I can't" versus "I won't" exercise to shift victim thinking.
Affirmation from Sammy Davis Jr.[17:48]
• On the day Jack received his Teacher of the Year award, Sammy Davis Jr. was at the school promoting his book "I Can" and witnessed the ceremony.
• As Jack walked off stage, Sammy Davis Jr. told him, "You must be really cool to have gotten that award from those kids," a compliment Jack says he lived on for days.

Mentorship under W. Clement Stone and learning success principles

Transition from teaching to working for W. Clement Stone

Why Jack left teaching[20:26]
• Jack met W. Clement Stone while seeking ways to motivate his inner-city students, and Stone offered him a job teaching an achievement motivation program to teachers in inner-city schools.
• Stone's offer paid more than Jack's teacher salary, and Jack accepted, describing working for Stone as amazing.
Who W. Clement Stone was and how he built his wealth[20:32]
• Jack says Stone was worth $600 million in 1968 and was best friends with Napoleon Hill, co-authoring a book with him and also writing "The Success System That Never Fails."
• Stone founded Combined Insurance, selling low-premium policies to people big insurers often ignored, and developed a training system that turned non-college graduates into effective salespeople.
• He also made a fortune investing in real estate, notably obtaining 100-year air-rights leases over Chicago rail yards and profiting from skyscrapers built there, and invested well in other areas while publishing Success magazine and speaking.

Stone's sales training method and its effectiveness

Modeling sales in front of trainees[21:56]
• Stone would give a one-day class, then spend a day taking trainees on sales calls where he demonstrated presentations, debriefed over coffee, and had them notice key behaviors.
• After several observed calls, he would abruptly tell the trainee, "This one's yours," letting them try, then debriefing and adjusting, so that by the end of the day most knew how to sell.

Lessons from Stone: responsibility, time use, and training

100% responsibility intake question[23:30]
• In Jack's intake interview, Stone asked if he took 100% responsibility for his life; when Jack hesitated, Stone forced a yes/no answer and walked him through examples of blaming, complaining, and making excuses to show he did not.
Reclaiming time from television[23:56]
• Stone asked Jack how much TV he watched; when Jack estimated about three hours a day, Stone suggested cutting just one hour to gain 365 hours a year, equivalent to nine and a half 40-hour work weeks-a "14-month year" of productivity.

Setting big income goals and the origin of Chicken Soup for the Soul

Using affirmations and visualization to pursue a $100,000 goal

Stone's challenge and Jack's practices[25:03]
• Stone challenged Jack, then making around $30,000 a year as a teacher, to earn $100,000 a year so Stone could claim credit for teaching him how.
• Jack created an affirmation about earning $100,000 and visualized it daily, taping a hand-made "$100,000 bill" to his ceiling so it was the first thing he saw every morning.
First six-figure idea: self-publishing and mail-order[26:18]
• In the shower he realized that if he sold 400,000 copies of his book "100 Ways to Enhance Self-Concept in the Classroom" at 25 cents per copy, he would make $100,000, which became his initial strategy.
• He started a mail-order bookstore selling that book and then, at his wife's suggestion, added other people's products, hiring a high-school student to handle shipping.
• He ultimately earned $92,328-short of $100,000 but a huge leap-prompting his wife to ask if the method would work for a million, which he later achieved via Chicken Soup for the Soul.

Genesis of Chicken Soup for the Soul as a story collection

From speaking stories to book concept[27:28]
• Jack noticed that when he taught historical facts students tuned out, but when he told stories-his own, others', or from magazines-people paid attention, so he used stories heavily in workshops.
• Audience members kept asking where they could find specific stories in a book, and over two months he heard multiple requests daily, prompting him on a plane to list every story he knew, arriving at 70.
• He committed to writing or polishing two stories a week for a year to reach around 100, working nights.
Co-authoring with Mark Victor Hansen[29:00]
• At a Beverly Hills Inside Edge breakfast, Mark Victor Hansen asked what Jack was working on and then proposed finishing the book with him as co-author, arguing that some stories came from him and that he was a stronger salesman.
• Jack initially resisted, likening it to joining Stephen King mid-book, but agreed if Mark could bring 30 more stories; Mark returned with them, and their differing strengths (Jack more shy, Mark an aggressive promoter) made the partnership effective.
• Jack recounts Mark drumming up customers at a mall B. Dalton signing by loudly pitching their book in the mall corridor and then surprising people when he turned out to be one of the authors.

Rejection by publishers and persistence

144 rejections and confidence from live testing[31:12]
• Jack says they were turned down by 144 publishers and it took over a year to sell the book, but he persisted because the stories had been tested in workshops and reliably produced standing ovations and emotional reactions.
• He observes that New York publishing tends to favor copies of previously successful concepts, so radically new formats like non-fiction short-story collections faced skepticism.
Title "Chicken Soup for the Soul" received in meditation[32:11]
• Before meeting publishers, Jack and Mark lacked a title; they meditated asking for a "mega best-selling title," with Mark chanting that phrase as he fell asleep and Jack meditating an hour each morning.
• On the third day Jack visualized a school chalkboard with a hand writing "chicken soup" and initially objected that the book wasn't about sick people, but an inner voice replied that people's spirits were sick with resignation, hopelessness, and fear.
• He tested "Chicken Soup for the Spirit" then "Chicken Soup for the Soul" and got goosebumps, as did his wife, Mark, and their agent, though none of the 21 New York publishers they met reacted similarly.

Breakthrough publishing deal and grassroots marketing strategy

American Booksellers Association pitch and low expectations

ABA conference and eventual publisher[33:43]
• Jack and Mark went booth to booth at the American Booksellers Association with spiral-bound sets of about 20 stories; most publishers wouldn't even take a copy.
• Peter Vegso of Health Communications Inc. agreed to read the manuscript and later said they might sell 20,000 copies "if you're lucky"; Jack told him they wanted to sell 1.5 million in 1.5 years, which Vegso openly laughed at.
• After publication, the first shipment of 800 copies to a chain (Barnes & Noble or Borders) sold 80 in the first week, then 92, then 150, signaling an unexpected phenomenon and forcing the printer to move to high-volume rotary presses running three shifts.

Rule of Five and daily interviews inspired by bestsellers

Modeling Scott Peck and other bestselling authors[35:18]
• Jack learned that M. Scott Peck did five interviews a day for a year to promote "The Road Less Traveled," which then stayed on the New York Times list for 12 years, and he and Mark decided to emulate that strategy.
• They consulted five bestselling authors, including John Gray and Ken Blanchard, who all advised doing as many interviews as possible; they chose radio as their main medium at the time.
Implementing the Rule of Five from a marketing book and psychic reading[37:00]
• Drawing on John Kremer's book on selling a million books, they wrote each marketing idea on a Post-it, covered their office walls, and each day either did one action from five notes or the same action five times.
• Daily actions included calling churches with bookstores, military PXs, and bookstores to send sample copies and follow up, plus giving talks at churches and conferences, and doing radio shows at all hours.
• A psychic they consulted described the process like taking five swings at a tree with a sharp axe every day until even a redwood must fall, which reinforced their commitment to the Rule of Five.

Word of mouth and breakout media appearances

Lagged sales spikes from readers recommending the book[38:34]
• Jack observed that large sales spikes tended to occur a week or two after earlier spikes, consistent with people taking time to read the book and then recommending it widely, creating a chain-letter-like, geometric growth pattern.
Key TV spots and seminar back-of-room sales[39:38]
• National TV appearances such as Good Morning America and Fox and Friends produced noticeable sales boosts once they had proven themselves on local TV and built a competent media reel.
• Seminar companies like SkillPath and similar outfits sold their books at the back of rooms across many small cities Jack and Mark never visited, seeding new word-of-mouth chains.
• The head of one such company initially dismissed books as low-margin, but changed his mind after using a Chicken Soup story in place of a Bible reading at a men's group and being asked to read seven more stories in one night.

Selling the Chicken Soup brand and moving into The Success Principles

Burnout, niche titles, and sale of the franchise

Market saturation and personal fatigue[42:37]
• Jack recalls that early on they did one or two Chicken Soup books a year, but later did eight or nine annually because the publisher wanted more, even as sales began to taper and the market saturated.
• They increasingly produced niche titles (e.g., for specific hobbies or groups) which limited audience size compared to the universal appeal of the original volumes, and Jack grew tired and jaded about recurring story types.
Decision and terms of the sale[47:52]
• Their CEO noticed Jack's burnout and asked if he would like to sell; Jack agreed "for the right price," and they sold the name, backlist, future royalties, and trademarks for what he describes as "tens and tens and tens and tens and tens and tens of millions of dollars."

Parallel seminar work and creation of The Success Principles

Seminars as ongoing core work[48:23]
• Throughout the Chicken Soup years, Jack continued running large seminars, sometimes with hundreds of people and even a 7,000-person, three-day training for Herbalife in India with full translation.
• He says he never wanted to be a publisher; he wanted to be a speaker and writer, so after the sale he simply shifted more energy back to seminars.
Origin and writing of The Success Principles[50:46]
• Business partner Patty encouraged him to codify the success ideas he'd been teaching into a book, resulting in "The Success Principles" published in 2005.
• Jack says the book "took 20 years" in the sense that he had been collecting and testing success data for that long; the actual writing took about a year and a half, often from 7 p.m. through the night until he heard birds at dawn.
• He enjoyed crafting transitions and wordplay, such as juxtaposing a story about "Sleepless in Seattle" with a coffee roaster sleeping on bean bags in Seattle and referencing how far he literally went the extra mile.

Retirement, identity shift, and health/longevity practices

Letting go of the "chicken soup guy" identity

Transition anxieties and natural progression[53:18]
• Jack acknowledges there was some identity tied to being "the chicken soup guy" and that some people still mainly see him that way, but says moving into The Success Principles felt natural because he'd always taught success.

Reasons for partial retirement at age 81

Desire for hobbies and family time[56:22]
• Jack wants to become a good chef, learn oil painting, improve on guitar and take up piano, hobbies he postponed while focusing on work.
• He has a 12-year-old grandson he describes as an "old soul" and wants more time with him and with his wife, feeling he owes her after years on the road.
• He plans to reduce road-warrior travel and large events while still doing a limited number of workshops and writing four more books, calling this his version of "retired."

Practices Jack credits for his sharpness and vitality

Psychological and emotional habits[57:01]
• Jack says he follows his joy and passion, has relatively few fears, and has greatly reduced inner struggle, which he believes lowers disease-causing stress.
• He actively works to clear limiting beliefs and admires Byron Katie's "The Work," which helped him stop getting upset about things and accept reality while still acting to change it without anger.
Physical and lifestyle habits[58:38]
• Jack meditates regularly, does periodic cleanses (he mentions being on day 8 of a 10-day cleanse), uses saunas, exercises enough to stay moving, and eats organic food and supplements-a regimen he began in his early 20s via a health-food-store owner friend.
• He mostly stopped drinking alcohol, gets regular massages, and tries to listen only to comedy channels in his car to laugh often.
• He suggests that repeated plant medicine work has also helped clear unresolved emotional material, contributing to his lightness.

Ayahuasca and reevaluating the drive for significance

First plant-medicine experiences and Rhythmia

Early experiments and long gap[1:01:45]
• Jack notes he did not use much marijuana because it made him sleepy, and he generally avoided drugs like cocaine out of fear of addiction, though in graduate school he tried mescaline, peyote, and LSD a few times.
Rainforest ayahuasca and later Rhythmia visits[1:03:10]
• About 20 years ago he joined Lynn Twist and the Pachamama Alliance on a trip to the Ecuadorian rainforest, where he did ayahuasca with a local shaman and had profound breakthrough experiences.
• Later he learned of Rhythmia, a Costa Rican center founded by Gerry Powell, whose life had been transformed by Ibogaine and who created Rhythmia to help others via ayahuasca; Jack has visited five times, doing four ceremonies per visit (20 total).

Specific ayahuasca journey: forgiving Vladimir Putin and self-reflection

Intention to "forgive the unforgivable"[1:04:29]
• In one Rhythmia ceremony the intention was to "forgive the unforgivable"; Jack initially thought he had already forgiven everyone-parents, people who embezzled or stole from him, bullies, ex-wives and their lawyers.
Vision of Putin and release of animosity[1:05:28]
• Under the medicine he saw Vladimir Putin's face and realized he needed to forgive someone he viewed as one of the most evil men on the planet.
• He saw images of Putin's childhood and motivations, including a deep need for significance through reassembling the Soviet Union, and after forgiving him felt a large energy leave his body, revealing how much animosity he had harbored.
Realizing his own significance-seeking[1:07:07]
• Jack then had a vision of his office door opening onto a de facto shrine to his own significance-Guinness records, magazine covers, awards, honorary doctorates, and more.
• He recognized that while he has a genuine philanthropic and service orientation, part of his drive had been to prove he was worthy and significant, even leaving his family for days to give commencement speeches mainly to collect more honorary degrees.
• This realization, coupled with turning 80, contributed to his decision to slow down, clear ego-driven commitments, and prioritize things he wants to do for their own sake.

Limiting beliefs, 100% responsibility, and behavior change tools

What is often missing in self-help: unconscious beliefs and community

Role of unconscious limiting beliefs[1:08:59]
• Jack argues that many people use tools from "The Secret" like visualization and affirmations but see poor results because unconscious limiting beliefs sabotage their efforts.
• He says such beliefs usually originate between ages three and eight during traumatic experiences where we decide things like "It's not safe to ask for what I want" or "It's not safe to be seen," and we may not be consciously aware of them.
• He has co-developed a belief-change process effective enough that in twice-yearly free sessions for hundreds of people, he sees major breakthroughs in about 99% of participants, including physical shifts like one woman losing arthritis symptoms in 20 minutes.
Importance of community and support[1:11:19]
• Beyond individual tools, he emphasizes the power of community and having people to call for support when you "go off," noting that his sister's mood shifted in 10 minutes after phoning him when she was struggling.

E+R=O formula and the futility of blaming/complaining

Event + Response = Outcome framework[1:11:45]
• Jack teaches the equation E + R = O (Event plus Response equals Outcome), arguing that while we cannot control events, we can control our responses-our thoughts, images, and behaviors-and thus our outcomes.
• He insists that blaming and complaining never improve outcomes; they may release steam and create social bonding (e.g., in after-work bar conversations) but do not solve problems.
Complaining as evidence of an unpursued better option[1:14:51]
• He notes that to complain, one must have a mental reference point of something better, such as a better job or spouse, but be unwilling to risk creating that better reality, so complaining substitutes for action.
• He jokes that nobody complains about gravity because it is unchangeable; by contrast, anything we do complain about is, by definition, something we implicitly believe could be different.
• He shares a therapist's quip to a quarrelling couple-that they at least agree that finding whose fault it is will somehow make life better-to highlight the uselessness of blame.
Scaling responsibility questions in organizational settings[1:15:45]
• Jack cites a consultant who asks dissatisfied employees to rate their quality of life at work from 1-10, then asks "Why so high?" to reframe and then "What would be an 8?" and "What could you do to help create that?" to move them toward responsible action.

Installing new beliefs and habits via repetition and cues

Affirmations and the 66-day window[1:17:03]
• When Jack notices negative self-talk, he writes an opposite affirmation on Post-its and places them in visible spots; he notes neuroscience suggesting it takes about 66 days of repetition to change a belief, longer for deeply rooted ones.
Doorway cue technique from West Point[1:17:22]
• He describes a method from the head of peak performance at West Point where cadets touch the doorjamb every time they pass through a doorway and say their affirmation, leveraging frequent environmental cues to build new patterns.
• Jack suggests that adding four new behavioral shifts per year can lead to 40 changes in a decade, and recounts how he and his wife practiced each of Don Miguel Ruiz's Four Agreements for three months, using signs to remind themselves.

Productivity, decluttering, and the cost of incompletions

Cleaning up "messes" to free attention units

Messes as incompletions consuming mental bandwidth[1:19:41]
• Jack defines "messes" as any incompletions-unfinished projects, unresolved relationships, or physical clutter-that occupy "attention units" and sap focus.
• He cites research suggesting humans can hold about seven attention units at once and notes that unhandled cracks in a wall or piles of paper pull on these units or get suppressed, leading to neglect.
Systems for handling paper and future tasks[1:21:16]
• Jack admits he is also a heavy note-taker and paper accumulator, but mitigates it with filing systems-multiple filing cabinets and computer folders-and a "come up" file that holds physical items by month until they are needed.
• He describes a process where materials for a March 28 task go into a March folder and then get scheduled on specific days at the start of the month, keeping loose paper out of view.
21 areas to clean up and decluttering rules[1:23:29]
• Jack mentions a checklist of about 21 things to clean up, which he used when working as a trainer at a company called Instructure, where trainers had to live what they taught by completing such clean-ups.
• He discusses going through his clothes-including being a "shirt whore"-and instituting a rule that if he hasn't worn something in 60 days (excluding formalwear) it should be removed.
• He references advice to box up items not used in 30 days, label the box, and if another 120 days pass without opening it, discard the contents, as they are unlikely to be needed.

Feedback and iteration in writing

Using live audiences to refine material[1:25:24]
• Jack says he never writes what he hasn't spoken about extensively, because live audiences reveal where people are confused, bored, or engaged and what examples or details are missing.
Reading manuscripts aloud for flow[1:26:26]
• For the first Chicken Soup book, after multiple edits he went to a ski resort in summer and spent three days reading every story out loud; if a sentence did not sound smooth, he rewrote it, reasoning that readers sub-vocalize.
• He attributes the book's eventual 105 million copies sold in part to this extra effort to polish oral flow.
Large-scale teen feedback for Chicken Soup for the Teenage Soul[1:26:34]
• For the first Teenage Soul book, an entire high school suspended classes for a day so over 1,000 students could read and rate stories on a 1-10 scale via an Excel spreadsheet, guiding which stories made the cut.
• Jack quotes Jim Rohn's line "Feedback is the breakfast of champions" and notes that many authors avoid feedback out of fear, to their detriment.

Closing reflections, recommendations, and resources

Jack's recommended entry points for his work

Books to start with[1:27:49]
• Jack suggests new readers start with "The Success Principles: How to Get From Where You Are to Where You Want to Be" (now in a 20th-anniversary edition) as the basis of his work, and with the original "Chicken Soup for the Soul" if they have never read a Chicken Soup book.
Documentary and online resources[1:29:29]
• He mentions a documentary about his life, "The Soul of Success," directed by Emmy winner Nick Nanton and available free on YouTube, which covers some stories in greater depth.
• Jack directs listeners to jackcanfield.com for more information and materials related to his work.

Tim's appreciation and final advice to listeners

Tim's personal gratitude[1:31:03]
• Tim recounts an early memory of Jack patiently questioning and heavily editing a sweeping recording-release form Tim had created for speakers at a volunteer event, then signing it, and thanks Jack for his long-term generosity and impact on Tim's career.
Parting guidance for listeners[1:33:05]
• Tim closes by encouraging listeners to be "just a bit kinder than is necessary" to others and to themselves.

Lessons Learned

Actionable insights and wisdom you can apply to your business, career, and personal life.

1

Test your ideas in front of real people and refine them based on feedback before trying to scale them-stories, products, and frameworks that reliably move live audiences are far more likely to succeed when published or broadcast.

Reflection Questions:

  • • What current project or idea could you put in front of a small live audience this month to see how people actually respond?
  • • How might your plans for a book, product, or presentation change if you treated every early version as a rough draft to be stress-tested with real users?
  • • What is one concrete step you can take this week to gather honest feedback (not just praise) on something you're working on?
2

Small, consistent daily actions-the "Rule of Five"-compound into extraordinary results when applied relentlessly over time.

Reflection Questions:

  • • If you chose one important goal, what five specific actions could you commit to taking every single day for the next 90 days?
  • • How would your progress look different a year from now if you replaced sporadic bursts of effort with a simple daily minimum like the Rule of Five?
  • • What systems or reminders could you set up this week to ensure you actually execute your five daily swings at your "redwood" goal?
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Taking 100% responsibility by focusing on your responses-thoughts, images, and behaviors-instead of blaming events or other people is a powerful lever for changing your outcomes.

Reflection Questions:

  • • Where in your life are you currently blaming a person, institution, or circumstance instead of examining how your own responses are contributing to the result?
  • • How might your options expand if you framed a recent setback using E + R = O and brainstormed new responses you haven't tried yet?
  • • What is one situation this week where you will consciously replace complaining with a specific action you can take to improve the outcome?
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Unconscious limiting beliefs formed early in life can silently sabotage your goals unless you surface and revise them using deliberate practices and repetition.

Reflection Questions:

  • • What recurring pattern in your life (in money, relationships, or work) might be pointing to a hidden belief about what is or isn't possible for you?
  • • How could you start to identify and challenge that belief-through journaling, structured questions, or a guided process-rather than just working harder at the surface level?
  • • What affirmation or new belief statement could you reinforce daily over the next 60-90 days, and what cue (like a doorway or mirror) could you pair it with?
5

Clearing "messes" and incompletions in your environment, finances, and relationships frees up mental attention units and energy that you can then invest in high-value work and relationships.

Reflection Questions:

  • • Which three unfinished tasks, piles, or unresolved conversations are weighing on you the most right now?
  • • How might your focus and mood change if you scheduled specific time blocks this month to fully resolve those three items?
  • • What simple recurring habit (e.g., a weekly review or a monthly "clean-up day") could you implement to prevent new messes from accumulating?
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Periodically reevaluating your motivations-especially the drive for external significance-allows you to realign your life with intrinsic joy, relationships, and experiences that truly matter.

Reflection Questions:

  • • In which areas of your life are you pursuing titles, accolades, or recognition more for how they look than for how they actually feel day to day?
  • • How would your calendar look different over the next year if you optimized it for meaningful experiences with people you care about instead of status markers?
  • • What is one obligation or pursuit you could consciously downshift or exit in the next three months to create space for a hobby, relationship, or exploration you've been postponing?

Episode Summary - Notes by Drew

#833: Jack Canfield - Selling 600+ Million Books, Success Principles, and How He Made The 4-Hour Workweek Happen
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