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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

Most Replayed Moment: Sadhguru on Why You Don't Need a Life Purpose!

Published October 3, 2025
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About This Episode

In this replayed conversation, Sadhguru challenges the common notion that humans must discover a singular life purpose, arguing instead that life has no inherent purpose and that inner joy and stability should be the focus. He emphasizes taking responsibility for one's inner experience, learning how the mind and body function, and cultivating inner balance through conscious practices rather than depending on external circumstances. The discussion touches on the impacts of social conditioning, trauma, the limits of intellect, and the importance of turning inward to manage one's own inner state.

Topics Covered

Personal Development Happiness Stress management Meditation Mindfulness Trauma Religion and spirituality Mental health Artificial intelligence Identity

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Quick Takeaways

  • Sadhguru argues that there is no fixed, singular purpose to life, and that over-attachment to a "life purpose" can turn into fanaticism or even destructive behavior.
  • He insists that all human experience arises from within, and that inner joy should be "self-start" rather than dependent on external events or people.
  • Learning to manage one's inner mechanisms, including thoughts and emotions, requires deliberate effort and guidance, similar to learning any complex skill.
  • A simple change in hand posture noticeably alters breathing patterns, illustrating how unconscious physical habits can affect inner states and energies.
  • Social conditioning that values being "better than others" leads to a kind of sickness where people take pleasure in others' failures.
  • Sadhguru frames trauma as an event that can either make a person wiser or more wounded, depending on how they choose to respond.
  • He cites research indicating that certain inner practices can significantly increase endocannabinoid levels, creating a naturally blissful state.
  • Sadhguru critiques the overvaluation of intellect in modern culture, comparing it to a sharp knife that can harm its owner if wielded unconsciously.

Podcast Notes

Introduction to the topic of life purpose and passion

Host describes common anxiety about finding a life purpose

Young people frequently ask about passion and purpose[1:03]
• The host says the most popular question young people ask him is about passion and purpose, reflecting widespread concern about these ideas
Societal indoctrination around the idea of a single purpose[1:14]
• He observes that people have been "indoctrinated by society" to think they have one overarching purpose in life
People treat purpose like an Easter egg hunt[1:14]
• The host compares the search for purpose to an Easter egg hunt, with people constantly looking for it and wondering how they will know when they've found it

Host frames the question for people currently working

Relevance to listeners commuting to work[1:22]
• He notes that many people listening on their way to work are asking what this subject of purpose and passion means and what they should commit their life to
Host asks how to answer the purpose/passion question[1:03]
• He directly asks: "What is this? This subject of purpose and passion, what do I commit my life to? How do we go about answering that?"

Sadhguru's challenge to the concept of life purpose

Dangers of extreme commitment to a purpose

Being fully committed can be labeled fanaticism[1:32]
• Sadhguru says that if you get absolutely committed to your purpose, you will be called a fanatic
Unconditional pursuit may be seen as terrorism[1:31]
• He adds that if you are willing to do "whatever it takes" to achieve your purpose, you will be called a terrorist

Assertion that there is no inherent purpose to life

Sadhguru states life has no purpose[1:43]
• He bluntly declares, "So, there is no purpose to life," directly contradicting the common pursuit of a singular life purpose

Condition for not being a vested interest

Joyfulness as the basis for non-vested engagement[1:53]
• Sadhguru says you can avoid being a vested interest only when you are joyful by your own nature, meaning your inner state is self-determined
Inner state must be self-determined[2:05]
• He emphasizes that "how you are is determined by you," and calls this the fundamental that must be set for inner freedom

All human experience arises from within, not from external events

Misconception that experience is caused by external stimuli

People believe experiences come from outside[2:11]
• He notes that people always think experiences happen because of external stimuli, and rejects this as incomplete

Dream examples illustrating internal origin of experience

Fear from dreaming of a tiger[2:18]
• He explains that simply dreaming of a tiger can make you experience fear, though nothing external is present
Love from dreaming of someone beautiful[2:22]
• He adds that you can dream of somebody beautiful and experience love, further underscoring that feelings are internally generated
Conclusion that all experience comes from within[2:29]
• Sadhguru concludes that all human experience happens from within, with external events serving only as stimuli at most

Analogy of push-start vs self-start for inner happiness

Old car analogy to illustrate self-reliant inner state

Description of older cars needing to be pushed or cranked[2:41]
• He recalls older "wax hall" cars that had to be parked on a slope and pushed in the morning, or started with a crank, requiring help from others
Modern self-start cars as a metaphor[3:00]
• He contrasts old cars with modern self-start cars and asks whether listeners would prefer their inner states to be self-start or push-start

Applying the analogy to peace, joy, love, bliss

Inner states should be self-start[3:21]
• Sadhguru asks if people want their peace, joy, love, and blissfulness to be self-start or push-start, implying they should be self-generated
Host agrees he would not want dependence on others[3:14]
• The host says he would not want his state to rely on anyone else, affirming the self-start ideal

Reality of external world not matching personal desires

Outside world is a mix of different people's ways[3:24]
• Sadhguru notes that the outside world will never go 100% one person's way; it will be "a little bit your way, little bit my way, little bit somebody else's way"
Joyfulness makes this acceptable[3:35]
• He says this shared reality is fine only if you are joyful by your own nature; otherwise, happiness becomes a remote possibility

Host asks about the first step to being happy by one's own nature

Host anticipates falling back into old reactions

Recognition of snapping back into unconscious dismay[4:05]
• The host says that after leaving the room, something will annoy him and he will snap back into an unconscious state of dismay or despair

Sadhguru's proposal of "inner engineering"

Question of whether life is worth 32 hours of focused time[4:19]
• Sadhguru asks if the host thinks his life is worth investing about 32 hours of focused time upon it, setting up the idea of a structured process
Inner engineering as a structured process[4:29]
• He describes a process he calls "inner engineering" that involves 32 hours of focused time and includes a practical component
21-minute daily practice taught over 32 hours[4:48]
• He says the core is a simple 21-minute practice, but to teach it properly they take 32 hours of orientation so that it will work correctly

Understanding why one's own thoughts and emotions hurt

Metaphor of hand punching one's own face[5:02]
• Sadhguru compares self-sabotaging thoughts to one's own hand punching their face and says understanding why this happens is necessary
Calling the human system the most sophisticated machine[5:09]
• He calls the human being "the most sophisticated machine on the planet" and questions whether people have read the user's manual for themselves

Learning the "user manual" for oneself through attention

Timing of learning how we work

Analogy with reading an iPad user's manual[5:35]
• He compares it to buying an iPad and asks whether you should read the user's manual in the first three days or after three years when discarding it, implying early is better
User manual is inbuilt and accessed by attention[5:35]
• Sadhguru says nobody hands you a physical user's manual for yourself because it is inbuilt and must be accessed by paying attention

Experiment to demonstrate connection between posture and breath

Instructions for hand positions and breathing[5:57]
• He asks the host to place palms facing down on the thighs, breathe slightly deeper than normal, and then switch hand orientation on his signal while observing changes in breathing
Focus on where lungs expand and contract most[6:21]
• He instructs the host to notice in which part of the chest the maximum expansion and contraction happens with each hand position
Host reports feeling more expansion when switching[7:05]
• After the exercise, the host reports feeling his chest and belly expanding more and getting more air when switching positions

Sadhguru's explanation of the posture-breath relationship

Shift of breathing between lung lobes

Downward-facing palms emphasize lower lung lobe[7:29]
• Sadhguru explains that with hands facing down and fingers together, maximum expansion and contraction occurs in the lower lobe of the lungs
Upward-facing palms shift to middle lung lobe[7:34]
• He says turning the hands around shifts the maximum expansion to the middle lobe, which is larger, so one feels more air, though the key change is the shift itself

Broader point about life energies changing with small actions

Hand position alters not just breath but life energies[7:51]
• He asserts that simply turning the hands around changes not only the way one breathes but also the way life energies function
Unconscious habits can set energies into turmoil[7:59]
• Sadhguru asks how many times a day people unconsciously change their posture and thereby set their energies into turmoil while still hoping to be peaceful
He is glad turmoil does not yield peace[8:09]
• He says he is happy that doing "wild things" and disturbing one's energies does not result in inner peace, because otherwise his own painstaking attention to detail would be pointless

Why we struggle to learn our own user manual: outward-bound senses

Sense organs as survival instruments

Senses are designed for survival, not inner enhancement[8:41]
• Sadhguru states that the abilities to see, hear, smell, taste, and touch are essentially survival instruments and cannot by themselves enhance life
Greater sensory ability only improves survival odds[8:52]
• He says if you see or hear better than him, you can survive better, but life will not feel enhanced merely through more sensory perception

Senses cannot perceive within

Eyes and ears only look outward[9:11]
• He notes that you can see him but cannot roll your eyeballs inward to scan yourself, and you cannot hear the many things happening within your body
Turning inward requires a different approach[9:31]
• Because sense organs are outward-bound, to perceive what is within you, you must "turn inward," which requires conscious effort beyond survival

Striving is needed for anything beyond survival

Learning even basic language took effort and guidance[9:50]
• Sadhguru points out that learning the twenty-six English letters took effort and guidance, illustrating that non-survival skills require striving
Society lacks striving for inner growth[9:56]
• He says the striving needed for inner enhancement is missing in society today

Historical example of a culture invested in inward well-being

Description of Hindustan/Bharat/India's past focus

Seventy percent of people invested in inner well-being[10:14]
• Sadhguru claims that in the civilization known as Hindustan or Bharat, about seventy percent of people were invested in inward well-being
Inner investment led to external richness[10:21]
• He says because of inner enhancement, they became rich in mathematics, astronomy, business, trade, and industry, becoming the richest nation about three hundred years ago

Wealth of that culture attracted colonizing powers

Europeans came to India in search of wealth[10:44]
• He notes that English, French, and Portuguese all went to India in search of wealth, not poverty
No conquest-based expansion, but effortless richness[10:47]
• He emphasizes that this richness happened without conquering others or maintaining large armies, but through inner enhancement

Warning about enhancing activity without enhancing self

Modern stress from outward success without inner growth

Attempting more activity without inner enhancement causes stress[10:57]
• Sadhguru says if you try to enhance your activity without enhancing yourself, you will "only die of stress"
Concern about stressed CEOs[11:21]
• He expresses concern that CEOs, who are entrusted with important responsibilities, are often stressed and could create misery for others

Value shift needed: inner peace over comparison

Striving for non-survival priorities like peace and joy

Society must value being peaceful and joyful[11:41]
• Sadhguru says society has to create the orientation that being peaceful and joyful is more important for human experience than being better than someone else

Host notes powerful narratives from media

Media promote individualistic, competitive narrative[11:59]
• The host mentions social media, magazines, TV, and movies pushing narratives that make people individualistic and competitive

Sadhguru critiques comparison-based conditioning

Competition begins in kindergarten[12:16]
• He says the mindset of "I am better than you" starts in kindergarten, where children are ranked first, third, etc.
Life focused on being better than others means enjoying others' failures[12:26]
• Sadhguru points out that if life is about being better than somebody else, it essentially means enjoying their failures
He labels this orientation a sickness[12:39]
• When asked if that sounds like joy or sickness, the host answers it sounds like sickness, and Sadhguru agrees it is a sickness being built into children

Discussion of trauma and its impact on behavior

Host describes how early trauma can distort life

Trauma can push people away from contentment[12:49]
• The host suggests that early trauma can drive people away from contentment and toward dysfunction, including prison or hurting others
Even small early events can increase greed or selfishness[13:01]
• He notes that something that happened at age seven, big or small, can orient people to be greedy, selfish, or harmful

Sadhguru frames trauma response as a choice

Two options: become wise or become wounded[13:18]
• Sadhguru says that when something unpleasant happens, you can either become wise or become wounded, and urges people to choose
Using unpleasantness as excuse vs growth[13:12]
• He criticizes using trauma as an excuse for behavior one does not like in oneself, instead of using it to become wiser
Carrying wounds as a badge to wound others[13:40]
• He says some people carry their wound like a badge so they can cause the same wound to others, which he questions given they know the pain of it
Reacting like a creature instead of consciously responding[13:56]
• Sadhguru says that when one reacts based on past pain, they are reacting like any other creature rather than consciously responding to life

Critique of simplistic neurology explanations

Host references neurons firing after trauma

Host suggests brain wiring makes one react badly[14:05]
• The host suggests that a bad event at age seven can cause neurons to fire in ways that make someone react badly later

Sadhguru dismisses oversimplified brain talk

He calls that explanation "WhatsApp neurology"[14:10]
• Sadhguru jokes that such explanations are "WhatsApp neurology," implying they are oversimplified or popularized notions not to be taken as full truth

Inner chemistry: research on a 21-minute practice and endocannabinoids

Sadhguru cites research from a medical center

Reference to a research center at Harvard Medical School and Beth Israel Hospital[14:16]
• He mentions a research center at Harvard Medical School in Beth Israel Hospital studying the effects of the 21-minute practice
International conference mentioned[14:26]
• He notes that an international conference is taking place there over several days in October, indicating ongoing formal research

Effect of the practice on endocannabinoid levels

Practice practitioners show 70% higher endocannabinoids[14:45]
• Sadhguru reports that people doing the 21-minute practice for six to eight weeks have endocannabinoid levels 70% higher than what is considered normal
Explanation of cannabis and receptors[15:01]
• He explains that all humans have cannabis receptors but the body is meant to produce its own cannabinoids, not necessarily rely on external cannabis

Comparison to sexual orgasm and extreme exercise

Endocannabinoids exceed levels in orgasm or extreme exercise[15:26]
• He says the measured levels are about 23% higher than what occurs during sexual orgasm or extreme exercise, achieved simply while sitting
Naturally blissful state eliminates need for moral policing[15:41]
• Sadhguru argues that if someone naturally felt that good all the time, nobody would need to tell them not to rob or kill, as harmful behavior would be unnecessary

Childhood joy vs adult unhappiness

Shift from effortless joy to hard-to-reach happiness

Children are naturally joyful by their own nature[15:46]
• He recalls that at age five, children are "bubbling with joy" by their own nature, and others must work hard to make them unhappy
Adults now need effort from others to be happy[16:01]
• He contrasts that with adulthood, where now someone has to work hard to make you happy, indicating a reversed equation
If growth were real, joy should have increased[16:01]
• Sadhguru argues that if one had really grown up, being very happy at age five should have led to being ecstatic by age thirty-one, questioning why that is not so

Discussion of human intelligence and artificial intelligence

Establishing human as most intelligent species

Sadhguru asserts humans are the most intelligent species[16:13]
• He asks rhetorically whether humans are the most intelligent species and suggests that this is the case

Clarifying relationship between human and artificial intelligence

Artificial intelligence is created by humans[16:30]
• He notes that artificial intelligence is created by human beings and questions how it could be considered more intelligent than its creators

Confusion between memory/computation and intelligence

Devices only seem smarter due to memory and computation[17:02]
• Sadhguru explains that people think their phone is smarter because it has better memory and computing capacity, but that is not the whole of intelligence
Intellectual process is only one dimension of intelligence[16:56]
• He says people treat mind and thought as the whole of intelligence, but that is only one-dimensional "intellect"

Cultural overvaluation of thought and intellect

European history of dogmatic religion and reaction

Religious dogma previously suppressed thinking[17:34]
• Sadhguru describes how in Europe, dogmatic religious beliefs once prevented people from thinking beyond what was written in religious books, with death as a penalty
Breaking away from dogma led to eulogizing thought[17:48]
• He explains that when Europeans broke away from religious dogma, thinking for themselves felt like liberation and human thought was then excessively praised

Education system built on intellectual dominance

Whole global education model centers intellect[17:56]
• Sadhguru says the entire education system on the planet was crafted based on this overemphasis on thought and intellect
One-dimensional intelligence leads to misperceptions[18:01]
• He argues that people using only the intellectual dimension of intelligence mistakenly see devices as smarter and neglect other forms of intelligence

Intellect as a sharp instrument that can harm if misused

Primacy of existence over thought

You exist first, then think[18:21]
• Sadhguru challenges the idea "I think, so I exist" by asking whether you exist because you think or you think because you exist; the host answers that existence comes first
Seeing, hearing, thinking are activities of existence[18:42]
• He emphasizes that seeing, hearing, smelling, thinking, and emoting are all activities of the more fundamental reality of being alive

Sharp intellect requires conscious handling

A sharp knife metaphor for intellect[19:56]
• Sadhguru compares intellect to a very sharp knife that requires careful handling, or else one risks serious harm
Unconscious use of intellect leads to self-harm[19:56]
• He says people are unconsciously "cutting themselves up" with their own sharp intellect and then blaming life, labeling it stress, anxiety, or misery
Knife itself is neutral; the hand wields it[19:51]
• He observes that in history a knife has never jumped up and stabbed anyone; it is the hand that uses it for cooking, surgery, or violence, paralleling how intellect is used

Meta note that this was a replayed moment

Host identifies clip as a most replayed moment from a previous episode

Explanation that the segment comes from an earlier full episode[20:23]
• The host states that what was just heard was a "most replayed moment" from a previous episode, indicating this is a highlight rather than a new full conversation

Lessons Learned

Actionable insights and wisdom you can apply to your business, career, and personal life.

1

Fixating on a singular, grand life purpose can become a trap; instead, focus on cultivating inner joy and stability so you can respond intelligently to whatever life presents.

Reflection Questions:

  • • What expectations or narratives about having a single "life purpose" have I unconsciously adopted from family, school, or media?
  • • How might my decisions change if I prioritized being inwardly joyful and stable over trying to live up to a predefined purpose?
  • • What is one situation this week where I can deliberately choose a calm, joyful inner stance rather than chasing an external sense of purpose?
2

Your experience of life is generated from within, and treating yourself as a sophisticated system with a "user manual" shifts you from blaming circumstances to learning how your mind and body actually work.

Reflection Questions:

  • • In which moments do I tend to assume that my feelings are caused entirely by external events rather than by how I process them internally?
  • • How could approaching my mind and emotions like a complex system to be learned and practiced with (instead of fought with) change my current struggles?
  • • What specific regular practice or block of learning time could I commit to over the next month to better understand and manage my own inner workings?
3

Small, often unconscious physical actions-like how you hold your hands or posture-can significantly influence your breathing and energy, so becoming more physically aware is a practical path to inner balance.

Reflection Questions:

  • • What recurring postures or physical habits (sitting, phone use, breathing patterns) might be subtly affecting my mood or energy throughout the day?
  • • How might a simple daily experiment-like changing posture, breath, or hand position with awareness-help me notice the link between body and mind?
  • • When could I build in a short daily check-in to scan my body posture and breathing, and consciously adjust them to support a calmer inner state?
4

Unpleasant or traumatic events can either make you wiser or more wounded; the crucial leverage is in choosing not to use past pain as an excuse but as information for more conscious responses.

Reflection Questions:

  • • Which specific past event do I most often use-out loud or in my head-to justify reactions I myself don't actually like?
  • • How could I reinterpret that event in a way that highlights what it taught me, rather than what it took from me?
  • • What is one concrete behavior pattern I can decide to change, starting now, so that I stop passing my own wounds on to other people?
5

Over-identifying with intellect and comparison-trying to be "better than" others-turns your sharp mind against you; redefining success as inner well-being helps you wield intellect as a tool instead of a weapon.

Reflection Questions:

  • • Where in my life am I most driven by the need to outdo others rather than by a genuine desire to grow or contribute?
  • • How might my stress levels shift if I measured success more by my inner peace and clarity than by external rankings or achievements?
  • • What is one situation this week where I can consciously use my analytical mind to solve a problem, while refusing to let it fuel comparison or self-criticism?

Episode Summary - Notes by Spencer

Most Replayed Moment: Sadhguru on Why You Don't Need a Life Purpose!
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