with Ben Patrick
Tim Ferriss interviews strength coach Ben Patrick, also known as Knees Over Toes Guy, about his journey from debilitating knee pain and multiple surgeries to pain‑free athletic performance. Ben explains the origins of his knees‑over‑toes approach, the key exercises and minimalist programming he uses for joint health and performance, and how he applies this with clients and family, including his 71‑year‑old mother. They also discuss equipment innovations, American manufacturing, and Tim's philosophy on integrity, long‑term thinking, and resisting audience capture in media and business.
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Actionable insights and wisdom you can apply to your business, career, and personal life.
Training strength through full ranges of motion, including knees over toes and deep hip positions, can transform joint resilience and performance when progressed carefully instead of avoided.
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A minimalist, high-quality program done consistently-often just one or two hard sets of a few key exercises-can deliver outsized results compared to complex, high-volume routines you can't stick to.
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Building from the ground up-prioritizing lower legs, knees, and hips before heavy upper-body work-creates more balanced, durable mechanics and reduces the likelihood of chronic pain.
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Resisting audience capture-refusing to chase trends or extreme content just because it performs well-protects your integrity and keeps your work aligned with a long-term internal compass.
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Audience trust is a compounding asset: small compromises (like overstated claims or conflicted recommendations) can permanently damage it, while disciplined honesty creates opportunities you can't predict.
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Small, repeated choices-whether slightly exaggerating a claim or investing a bit more in a core value like quality or local manufacturing-compound over years into dramatically different outcomes.
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Clarifying what "enough" looks like for you financially frees you to optimize for meaning, integrity, and health instead of chasing every possible dollar.
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Episode Summary - Notes by Sawyer