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My First Million

The High School Dropout Who Made $2B & Bought an NBA Team

with Ryan Smith

Published November 5, 2025
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About This Episode

Ryan Smith describes his journey from a 1.9 GPA high school dropout to building Qualtrics from his family basement into a multi‑billion‑dollar company and later becoming an NBA team owner. He recounts being effectively forced out of school, surviving a precarious stint in Seoul as a teen English teacher, founding Qualtrics with his father during a cancer scare, and eventually turning down a $500 million acquisition offer before raising major venture capital and selling the company. He also reflects on focus, long‑term thinking, buying the Utah Jazz, and his personal frameworks for parenting and career decisions.

Topics Covered

Entrepreneurship Business growth and scaling Leadership and management Work ethic Risk and uncertainty Venture capital Personal development Career transitions Side hustles Personal narrative

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Quick Takeaways

  • Ryan Smith went from a disengaged student and high school dropout to supporting himself in Korea at 17 by building a private English‑teaching business that generated about $8,000 a month.
  • Qualtrics began in his parents' basement while his father was undergoing cancer treatment, with Ryan handling sales calls and his dad providing technical expertise, even when he could not speak and had to write answers on a board.
  • Radical focus on universities as a single customer segment, enforced by his brother Jared, became a key forcing function that helped Qualtrics gain traction before expanding.
  • Ryan and his family turned down a $500 million acquisition offer, choosing instead to double down, reinvest profits, and later raise capital from Sequoia and Accel at a much higher valuation.
  • He used a sequence of media headlines about turning down $500 million and later fundraising at higher valuations as a way to work backwards and set directional goals for the company.
  • The actual day Qualtrics' sale money hit felt underwhelming to Ryan and his wife, reinforcing his belief that fulfillment comes from the journey and that he will keep working well into old age.
  • Buying the Utah Jazz came from a long‑standing love of basketball and a desire to impact Utah, and the deal was initiated using the publicly available Forbes franchise valuation as a starting point.
  • Ryan emphasizes the "nine most important minutes" with children (wakeup, after school, and bedtime) and advises young people to design their careers around desired attributes rather than rigid job titles.

Podcast Notes

Introduction and Ryan Smith's transformation from dropout to billionaire

Host frames Ryan's life arc

Ryan's early academic struggles and current net worth[0:00]
• Ryan is introduced as someone who went from a 1.9 GPA high school dropout to having a roughly $2 billion net worth.
• The host contrasts Ryan's story with typical dropout myths like Harvard dropouts with a clear big idea, emphasizing that Ryan did not follow that path.
Host outlines major milestones in Ryan's life[0:00]
• Ryan built Qualtrics from his family's basement, ultimately selling for around $8 billion and taking the company public.
• He later became an NBA team owner, with the host describing that as "insane."
Ryan's stated philosophy about action[0:53]
• Ryan summarizes his philosophy as "don't blink, just go," indicating a bias toward decisive action.

Setting up the origin story

Host requests Ryan's teenage backstory[1:28]
• The host asks Ryan to rewind to ages 14-17 and explain what was going on in his life that led to dropping out.

Family upheaval, school disengagement, and dropping out

Impact of parents' split and adolescent attitude

Parents' separation and emotional reaction[2:05]
• Ryan says his parents split up when he was about 14 and that his world was "rocked."
• He adopted a defiant stance of "screw everything" and resisted being told what to do.
Lack of academic skills and limited self‑belief in school[2:21]
• Ryan says he never developed the skills needed for school and did not think he was good at it.
• He knew he was a good athlete and that he was good at golf and poker, and felt "there was something there," but he did not work hard or finish things.
• He describes finishing as a hard concept for him and something that "just never happened" at that time.
Bleak trajectory and lack of visible spark[2:40]
• Ryan characterizes his trajectory at 14-17 as "not a very hopeful one."
• He notes there was no indication of a spark or good ideas inside him during that period.

Dropping out of high school and first job opportunity

How dropping out was effectively forced[3:08]
• Ryan explains that dropping out was "kind of forced" because he did not go to class and school told him it was not working out.
• He recalls the school effectively saying there was probably another path for him.
Uncle's invitation to work at a company[3:13]
• An uncle contacted Ryan about a company called iMall and suggested that instead of screwing off all day he should come work.
• Ryan started working in the mailroom with three older men, one in his 40s, at that company.

Decision to go to Korea and early independence

Dreams of making money and suggestion to go to Korea

Ryan's early money‑making schemes[3:46]
• Ryan frequently talked about wanting to go make money, such as working on fishing boats in Alaska that paid around $20 an hour.
• His parents' attitude was that he could do whatever he wanted as long as he graduated, with the bar set "really low."
Colleagues encourage Korea instead of other ideas[3:41]
• The older coworkers at iMall told him he should go to Korea, which appealed to him.
• Ryan's father agreed that if Ryan could pay for it and graduate high school, he could go to Korea.

Finishing high school via GED

Accelerated path to graduation[4:16]
• Ryan got a GED at 17, going to a university and finishing in a few months using packets.
• He notes that his fellow GED students included mothers and others who had not previously finished school.
• He describes deciding to "crank this thing out" and succeeding, which gave him a moment of realization that he could accomplish something when he set his mind to it.

Arriving in Seoul and early crisis

Expectations before arriving in Seoul

Planned job and housing arrangements[4:49]
• The plan was that Ryan and others had communicated with someone in Korea who supposedly had jobs and housing arranged for them at a school.
• Ryan had never left Utah before this trip.

Discovering there was no job or housing

Unanswered calls and realization of the situation[5:20]
• Upon arrival, they went to a hotel and repeatedly called the contact number but got no answer for days.
• When someone finally answered, it was a Korean woman who did not speak English, revealing that the expected arrangements were not real.
Running out of money and pressure to leave[5:37]
• After about a week in the hotel, they had no job, no housing, and not enough money to continue staying there.

Parents' responses and Ryan being told not to come home

Peers call parents and go home[5:43]
• Ryan and his companions called their parents from a coffee shop; the others had parents who bought them tickets home immediately.
Ryan's father refuses to bring him home[5:55]
• Ryan's father told him he was not coming home, believing Ryan had a chance to do something there.
• Ryan reflects that as a parent he now finds that decision surprising, saying he would never leave his own kid there, but his father thought the upside was better.
Emotional low point[6:35]
• Ryan describes feeling "rock bottom," very homesick, in a country with no Americans, no English, and no money, forced to figure things out.

Building an English teaching business in Korea

First teaching opportunity and living situation

Finding initial work as an English teacher[6:58]
• Ryan met someone who needed an English teacher and offered him about $10 an hour for three hours a day in the mornings.
Living in a goshiwon[7:18]
• Ryan learned about a goshiwon, a small room where Koreans study, and negotiated with the proprietor to let him sleep there in exchange for teaching him English one hour a day.
• He notes that the goshiwon was only slightly bigger than a locker room and that nobody usually slept there, but it had a shower.
• He found a small stove and cooked ramen noodles because that was all he could afford.

Emotional experience of improvising in Korea

Not a romanticized backpacking experience[8:06]
• Ryan explicitly says he was not enjoying "MacGyvering" the situation and did not view it as a fun backpacking‑style adventure.
• At the time he just wanted to get home, with no sense of momentum or a clever narrative about the experience.

Scaling from one student to a full private teaching business

Observing the opportunity in residential high‑rises[8:35]
• Ryan noticed that Seoul had many 15-20‑story high‑rises where people lived and saw that private lessons were better than school jobs.
• He reasoned that if he could teach back‑to‑back 55‑minute private lessons starting around 4 p.m., it would be ideal.
Flyer campaign and dealing with security[9:02]
• He obtained a pager and had someone write a Korean message, then made around 5,000 flyers promoting his English lessons.
• To get flyers into large rows of mailboxes in each building, he would talk to the security guard, try to befriend him, and persuade him to allow it.
• Ryan says he was usually pretty successful at persuading the security guards.
Rapid income growth and first sense of having good ideas[9:25]
• After distributing the flyers, his beeper started "hammering" with responses, which he describes as the first time he felt he had a good idea and could execute on it.
• Within about a month, as a 17‑year‑old, he was making roughly $8,000 a month teaching English.

Founding Qualtrics with his father and building from the basement

Origin of Qualtrics during his father's cancer treatment

Leaving an internship after father's terminal prognosis[10:30]
• Ryan was doing an internship at Hewlett‑Packard in Los Angeles when he got a call that his father had cancer with a prognosis of about three years to live and possibly only months.
• He left California, deferred school, and decided to spend the semester with his father.
Father's technology work and online research idea[11:01]
• Ryan's father had long been working on technology and had an idea to collect research online.
• At that time, online data collection was not trusted, and companies either used paper and pencil customer satisfaction methods or did not gather such feedback at all.
• He was paid significant fees to help companies gather feedback and involve customers in decision‑making, which was considered novel.

Combining his father's idea with Ryan's sales experience

Seeing a go‑to‑market opportunity[11:55]
• Ryan had learned phone‑based go‑to‑market techniques at Hewlett‑Packard and saw that these could be applied to his father's online research tool.
• He proposed that they turn his father's idea into a commercial business and offered to take it to the world.
Equity split and early basement operations[12:46]
• Ryan's father said he had no money and could not pay him, so Ryan suggested a 50‑50 split.
• His father would come home from radiation and chemo, sit there, and work with Ryan on the business from the basement.
• By the time his father recovered, could not yet speak, and was writing on a board, they had about 10 customers.
No one initially believed the company would be big[13:28]
• Ryan notes that no one, including his roommates, his father, or himself, thought the company would become something significant at that stage.

Handling technical questions while father could not speak

Tag‑team approach on complex customer calls[13:28]
• Ryan took calls and customers would ask deep statistical questions he did not know the answer to, so he would go back and forth with his father, who wrote on a board.

Focus on universities and partnership with his brother Jared

Choosing universities as the initial focus market

Early traction with professors[14:02]
• Around 2006-2007, Qualtrics found traction in universities, beginning with professors similar to Ryan's father.
• Ryan cites Angela Lee at Kellogg Business School as his first customer; she required all her students to use Qualtrics, which helped spread adoption.
Brother's insistence on strict focus[14:30]
• Ryan describes a story where his brother would figuratively "hang up the phone" on discussions about customers outside a defined list of around 250 universities.
• He emphasizes that real focus means saying no to many plausible ideas and prospects.

Jared's Google background and influence

Jared's role at Google[15:21]
• Jared was an early Google employee and at one point was assigned to run Google China, working with Kai‑Fu Lee and based in Beijing.
Advice calls constrained by Jared's time and standards[15:45]
• Ryan says when he called Jared for advice, Jared felt Ryan was all over the place and did not have time for scatterbrained updates.
• Jared insisted that if Ryan was going to call, he needed to be focused and actually finish something.

Focus as a forcing function for the team

Metaphor of a shot blocker in basketball[16:13]
• Ryan likens Jared's role to a shot blocker in basketball who forces you not to bring weak attempts into the lane.
• Knowing how Jared would respond forced Ryan and the team to arrive prepared and focused on the agreed university targets.
Internal pressure to show weekly progress[16:33]
• Ryan describes mentally editing his own story before calling Jared, asking himself what new progress he could report compared to the previous week.

Recruiting Jared to Qualtrics and working as complementary cofounders

Jared joins in 2009 after seven years of grinding[16:54]
• Jared moved back to Utah to join Qualtrics in 2009, about seven years after the company started.
• Ryan says "magic started happening" once they were working together.
Jared's product talent and their dynamic[17:10]
• Ryan did not initially realize how good Jared was, later characterizing him as a top product person globally at that time.
• As brothers, they could push each other harder and longer on disagreements than Ryan could with any other executive, sometimes going fifteen rounds on issues without drama.
Complementary strengths and weaknesses[18:08]
• Ryan notes they were "so different," with Jared as a full engineer and their roles filling each other's blind spots like a relationship.
• He recalls Jared explicitly stating he was bad at five things and asking Ryan for his weaknesses, prompting Ryan to realize he had not previously thought in those terms.

Becoming CEO, entering the big leagues, and playing the long game

Negotiating roles with Sequoia during fundraising

Sequoia's requirement for a single CEO[18:32]
• When Qualtrics took money in 2011, Sequoia insisted that there be a single CEO, asking which brother would take the role.
• Ryan recalls sitting across from investor Mike Moritz, noting his track record backing major founders, while facing this question.
Jared chooses Ryan as CEO[19:25]
• After a long silence, Jared stood, slapped the table, pointed at Ryan, and said "it's him," adding that he would not do media.
• Ryan notes that interviews with Jared Smith are extremely rare, consistent with that decision.
Transition to operating at a higher level[20:20]
• The funding round from Sequoia and Accel was described as the largest Series A in tech since 2008, and Qualtrics was outside the Bay Area.
• Ryan frames this moment as entering the "big leagues," with increased pressure as a first‑time CEO.

Ten‑year grind, competition, and mastering sales

Long slog before recognition and MrBeast comparison

Ten years from founding to major funding[20:37]
• Ryan confirms the company started in 2002 and they were now discussing events around 2012, marking a ten‑year journey.
Parallel with slow‑building YouTube success[21:24]
• The host references Jimmy (MrBeast) describing years of making videos from age 12 to 18 with almost no viewers before eventual growth.
• This example is used to illustrate the reality behind the "10‑year overnight success" cliché and years spent in obscurity.

Basement frustrations and competition with better‑funded rivals

Feeling outgunned by a cheaper, better‑funded competitor[21:59]
• Around 2004, Ryan was in the basement struggling with website issues and facing a competitor that had raised $40 million, had a cheaper product, and a superior product.
• He describes being frustrated and questioning whether they were going to make it.
Father's only angry outburst: "who's stopping you"[22:29]
• Ryan's father slammed the table, turned around, and asked him who was stopping him from doing everything he wanted to do.
• This moment made clear that there were no shortcuts or easy buttons; if they were going to succeed, Ryan would have to do the work.
• After that, Ryan stopped asking his father for permission and embraced the need to just go execute.

Early sales grind and deep product knowledge

Scrappy office setup and goal tracking[23:18]
• Ryan describes a photo of himself and Stuart in an office where everything, including $5 printers, was bought from a campus salvage sale.
• On the whiteboard he had lists of customers and goals like a "25K club" to track progress.
High‑volume outbound calling[23:42]
• He recalls spending all day dialing, emailing, and calling prospective customers.
• He would ask what tools they were using, whether they had ever done similar work, and reference top researchers using Qualtrics.
Remote demos before modern screen‑sharing tools[24:18]
• Before Zoom existed, he conducted demos by phone, sending a link and having prospects follow along in their browsers.
• Ryan emphasizes that he knew the product so well he could demo it from memory in a car without seeing the screen.

Philosophy of sales and belief in the product

Reframing sales as something everyone does[24:24]
• Ryan recounts Daniel Pink calling him while writing a book titled "To Sell Is Human," arguing that everyone is in sales in the sense of moving people in one direction or another.
Core requirements for being great at sales[24:59]
• Ryan says the first requirement is to genuinely believe in the product and that it will improve the other person's life.
• In Qualtrics' case, he believed organizations should run their businesses from the outside in, valuing employee and customer feedback rather than guessing.
• He argued that operating with frequent data about employees and customers would help companies win more and help individual users advance their careers by being correct more often.
• He highlights that the new way was also cheaper, faster, and better than traditional approaches.

Turning down a $500 million offer and choosing to scale with venture capital

Receiving the first acquisition offer

Scale of the offer and clean exit option[26:50]
• Ryan says the company received a $500 million offer, their first ever acquisition proposal, which would have set up him and the team for life.
• The acquiring CEO, Dave, led a company called SurveyMonkey and was married to Sheryl Sandberg, who was running Facebook, forming a "power couple."
• Dave told Ryan he would take the business and that Ryan could leave and be done, describing it as a very clean option.

Mentor advice and internal deliberations

Contrasting advice on whether to sell[27:46]
• Most people Ryan spoke to told him to "take it and run," but mentor Duff Thompson was the only one who advised against selling.
• Duff, who had been involved with WordPerfect, felt they had sold that company too early and saw Qualtrics as cash‑flow positive, growing at 100 percent, and promising if Ryan and Jared could work together.
Family discussion and wife's perspective[28:49]
• Ryan's brother and father asked him what he wanted to do, and he took time to think.
• He drove south with his wife, and about 40 minutes into the drive she told him that if things were going well, he should keep it rolling and that she did not need him home more.
• She framed this as the time to "go for it" if they were ever going to.

Telling Dave no and recommitting to growth

Meeting with Dave and the Qualtrics hat[29:53]
• Ryan invited Dave to visit the office, had him put on a Qualtrics hat to avoid being recognized, and gave him a tour of the culture and company.
• After the tour, Ryan told Dave he thought they were going to "go for it" and decline the acquisition.
• When Dave asked what made him think he could do it, Ryan replied that he had just gotten Dave to walk through the building wearing a Qualtrics hat.
Post‑decision seriousness and raising from Sequoia and Accel[31:32]
• Ryan says that turning down the offer meant they had to get serious, stop running the company on personal credit cards and a credit union, and reinvest all money into the business.
• They decided to raise capital from Sequoia and Accel, likening it to taking money from the Red Sox and Yankees, as Accel had done Facebook and Sequoia had done Google and Apple.
• The deal was that the investors would watch their back in the tech industry while Qualtrics stayed in Utah, made money, and kept its head down.

Working backwards with media narratives and learning from fundraising milestones

Unexpected media framing of the rejected $500M offer

Business Insider article and public perception[32:35]
• Ryan recalls a Business Insider journalist, Julie Bort, publishing an article titled along the lines of "the kid who turned down $500 million" with his picture, portraying him as excited about it.
• He felt the article made it look like he had gone to the media to rub the story in Dave's face, which embarrassed him.
• He saw it as a "burn the boat" moment because it effectively killed the possibility of that acquisition coming back.

Raising at a $1B valuation and reframing the story

Choosing a $1B valuation for signal and employee equity[34:03]
• When planning their next fundraise, Ryan wanted to raise at a $1 billion valuation to signal doubling the company's value, set a new mark, and support employee stock grants.
Calling Julie back to update the narrative[34:16]
• After Sequoia, Accel, and Insight agreed to the terms, Ryan called Julie Bort and reminded her of the previous article, telling her they were now raising at a billion and asking if she wanted the story.
• She reused the same picture and structure, but changed the headline to say they had raised at a billion after turning down $500 million.

Using future headlines to work backwards on strategy

Imagining the next article as a planning tool[35:30]
• Ryan describes sitting with employees who thought they had "made it" after the $1B raise, while he was instead asking what Julie's next article would be in a couple of years.
• Two years later, they raised at a $2.5B valuation, updating the narrative to "the group that turned down $500 million just raised at $2.5 billion."
• Later, another article announced that the group which had raised at $2.5B and turned down $500M had sold the company, with four similar headlines framed together.
• Ryan says they used this mental exercise of asking "what's the next story" to push themselves to go bigger, expand globally, and make more ambitious decisions.

Stories as the ultimate outcome and underwhelming feeling at exit

Stories as what remains after careers end[36:25]
• Ryan observes that when sports stars retire and get together, they mostly sit around telling stories about how things were.
• He frames these stories as essentially all we have at the end of such journeys.
Emotional reaction to the sale money hitting[36:46]
• When Qualtrics sold, Ryan says it was one of the most underwhelming days of his life.
• At a president's club‑type event with about 100 people, he watched as the funds closed and then hit everyone's accounts over a couple of hours.
• He handed his phone to his wife, who looked at the many zeros and simply said "scary," which he found anticlimactic after 20 years of work.
• He also observed team members celebrating paying off homes and other milestones, but concluded the main realization was that it truly is about the journey.
Ryan's intention to work until 80[38:10]
• Ryan says he knows he will work until he is 80 and will never stop working.
• He suggests young people should ask themselves that question, and notes that if he were going to check out, he would have done it already.

Love of basketball and path to owning an NBA team

Basketball as the only pursuit outside Qualtrics

Roadshow scheduling around Celtics game[39:59]
• During the Qualtrics IPO roadshow, Ryan arranged the schedule to spend three days in New York and then go to Boston so he could attend a Celtics game.
• He recalls sitting in the Celtics locker room with Danny Ainge, saying it was the only thing outside of Qualtrics he did.
Extreme focus and lack of side hustles[40:24]
• Ryan says that while running Qualtrics for about 20-22 years, he did not invest, sit on boards, buy real estate, or do angel investing.
• He emphasizes there were "no side hustles" and that the only exception was his involvement with basketball.

Desire to be part of the NBA ecosystem

Initial intrigue rather than explicit plotting[40:45]
• Ryan says he was not explicitly plotting to buy a team initially but was deeply intrigued by the NBA and the business side of it.
Expressing intent to NBA leadership[41:03]
• After the Qualtrics sale, he told NBA commissioner Adam (identified only by first name) that he would be part of the NBA in some capacity.
• Adam indicated they would love that but noted that Utah was not for sale at the time.

Exploring Minnesota and returning focus to Utah

Pursuit of the Minnesota franchise[41:23]
• Ryan says he heard that Minnesota was for sale and went down that path seriously.
Wife's attachment to the Jazz[41:38]
• His wife Ashley asked if they would have to give up their Utah Jazz season tickets if they bought Minnesota, and when he said yes, she objected because they were lifelong Jazz fans.

Acquiring the Utah Jazz from the Miller family

Initial "never for sale" message[42:02]
• Ryan had approached Gail Miller, whose family had owned the Jazz for about 30-35 years, and was told the team was in a legacy trust that could never be sold.
Unexpected callback and rapid negotiation[42:37]
• About six months after they turned down Minnesota, he received a call asking if he was still interested in the Jazz.
• In a meeting where they asked him to make an offer, Ryan pulled up the Forbes valuation on his phone and proposed that as the price, describing it as seemingly fair.
• He says there was no large auction and no other bidders; Gail cared that the team stay in Utah and knew Ryan and Ashley from sitting across the court.
Purchase price and perspective on the deal[43:08]
• Ryan notes the Millers had bought the Jazz for around $22 million, and he bought them for about $1.6 billion.
• He says there is not much debt allowed on such deals, and his philosophy was "don't blink" because there are only 30 NBA teams in the world.
Lifestyle impact and motivation for buying[44:36]
• Ryan and Ashley had deep conversations about why to do this, since life was already good and they would be taking on public pressure and responsibility for a state's hopes and dreams.
• He notes that owning an NBA team impacts their children very differently than Qualtrics did, because the team is highly public even though Qualtrics was worth more on paper.
• They questioned whether the move was about ego or about helping Utah and concluded that the motivation centered on Utah.

Life principles: parenting, career design, and decision rubrics

Nine most important minutes of the day with kids

Definition of the nine minutes[45:11]
• Ryan defines the nine most important minutes of the day as when kids wake up, when they get home from school, and when they go to bed (three minutes each).
Scheduling around those moments[45:35]
• He says that as you schedule and optimize your day, you should try not to put calls during those moments and aim to show up for at least one of them.

Using inversion to figure out what to do in life

Advice to figure out what you do not want[45:48]
• Ryan says that if you do not know what you want to do, you should figure out what you do not want to do, using inversion and contrast.
Observations from teaching at BYU[46:17]
• He and others teach a leadership and decision‑making class at the BYU business school and see many students with rigid ideas of what they want to do.
• He himself did not know what he wanted to do, and believes that lack of a fixed picture allowed Qualtrics to happen.

Career attributes Ryan looked for and how Qualtrics fit

Desired attributes in a job or career[46:26]
• Ryan knew he wanted a job where the sky was the limit and his age did not cap his potential or earnings.
• He did not want to be in roles where compensation was tightly tied to age brackets, like a fixed range at 22 or 24.
• He wanted to be in leadership, see many businesses and industries quickly, understand the world, and avoid "old school" fields.
Matching enterprise software to those attributes[47:15]
• When he looked at enterprise software, he realized it offered sky‑is‑the‑limit potential, founder creativity, lack of caps, and was a newer part of technology.
• He felt that in such a space, his "legs" would not be cut out from under him if he started performing well.

Advice to young people on career fit

Focusing on fit rather than preconceived pictures[47:51]
• Ryan advises younger people and entrepreneurs not to obsess over a specific picture of what their career should look like, but to see if an opportunity fits their desired attributes.
• He suggests they may be surprised to find that industries they never considered, like the auto industry, could match them very well.
• He notes that now he has more roles and priorities, but new opportunities still must fit into that attribute‑based rubric.

Closing appreciation

Mutual thanks and location shout‑out

Host and Ryan wrap up[48:23]
• The host thanks Ryan for doing the conversation, and Ryan thanks the host for coming out to Utah, saying he loves it there.

Lessons Learned

Actionable insights and wisdom you can apply to your business, career, and personal life.

1

Real focus means deliberately saying no to many plausible opportunities so you can relentlessly pursue one clear target and build momentum there.

Reflection Questions:

  • • What promising opportunities or projects in my life are actually distractions from the one focus that would move the needle most?
  • • How would my results change over the next year if I defined one segment, goal, or skill to focus on and ruthlessly ignored alternatives?
  • • What specific commitments or experiments can I decline this month to create space for deeper focus on my primary objective?
2

You cannot wait for perfect conditions or a shortcut; progress comes when you accept that no one is coming to save you and start doing the hard, unglamorous work yourself.

Reflection Questions:

  • • Where in my life am I still subtly waiting for someone else to fix a situation instead of taking ownership?
  • • How might my approach to a current obstacle change if I assumed there were no shortcuts and that consistent effort was the only path?
  • • What concrete action can I take this week that embodies full responsibility for a problem I've been blaming on external factors?
3

Belief in the value of what you offer is the foundation of effective selling and persuasion; when you genuinely think others will be better off, sales becomes education and service.

Reflection Questions:

  • • Which products, services, or ideas in my work do I genuinely believe improve people's lives, and why?
  • • How could I change my messaging or behavior so that conversations with customers or colleagues feel more like helpful education than pressure?
  • • What is one way I can deepen my understanding of my offering this week so I can speak about its value with more conviction and clarity?
4

Working backwards from a vivid future story or headline can clarify direction and help align today's decisions with a longer-term narrative you want to create.

Reflection Questions:

  • • If a trusted journalist wrote a one‑sentence headline about my work or life three years from now, what would I want it to say?
  • • How would my current priorities shift if I used that desired headline as a filter for what to start, stop, or double down on?
  • • What is one long‑term story about myself I want to be able to tell, and what is a small step I can take this week that makes that story more likely?
5

Career satisfaction often comes from aligning roles with desired attributes (such as uncapped upside, learning, or autonomy) rather than chasing a specific title or industry.

Reflection Questions:

  • • What are the 3-5 non‑negotiable attributes I want my work to have, regardless of job title or field?
  • • In what ways does my current role align with or violate those attributes, and what does that suggest about my next moves?
  • • What unexpected industries or opportunities should I explore that might fit my attribute list even if they don't match my current self‑image?
6

Small, consistently protected moments with people you care about can matter more than occasional grand gestures, especially in family relationships.

Reflection Questions:

  • • Which short daily moments with family or close friends have the highest emotional leverage for connection in my life?
  • • How could I adjust my schedule, calls, or meetings to reliably protect at least one of those key moments each day?
  • • What is one specific routine I can start tomorrow (morning, arrival, or bedtime) that will signal presence and attention to someone important to me?
7

Saying no to large, seemingly life‑changing offers can be rational when you have conviction in your trajectory and are willing to recommit with increased seriousness.

Reflection Questions:

  • • Have I ever accepted a "good enough" offer or path because it was easy, even though I suspected there was more potential if I kept going?
  • • How would I evaluate a big opportunity today if I looked beyond the immediate payoff and asked what it would do to my long‑term mission and energy?
  • • What habit or investment in my current project can I make this month that signals I am genuinely committed for the long term, not just until the first exit appears?
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Not knowing exactly what you want to do can be an advantage if you stay open and instead use inversion to rule out bad fits and clarify what you do want from experience.

Reflection Questions:

  • • What types of work, environments, or responsibilities have I already learned I definitely do not want, and what patterns do they share?
  • • How might I design my next role or project as an experiment to test specific attributes I suspect I might value?
  • • What is one small, low‑risk way I can explore a new field or role this quarter to gather data about what does and doesn't fit me?

Episode Summary - Notes by Kai

The High School Dropout Who Made $2B & Bought an NBA Team
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