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Stuff You Should Know

The Happy Place of Saturday Morning Cartoons

Published October 7, 2025
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About This Episode

Josh and Chuck take a nostalgic and critical look at the era of Saturday morning cartoons, tracing how they emerged, peaked, and eventually disappeared from broadcast television. They discuss the programming's cultural role for kids, the heavy commercialization and sugary-food advertising attached to it, and the regulatory battles over violence and marketing to children. The episode also covers the impact of deregulation, the rise of cable and gaming, and how these shifts ended the Saturday morning ritual while leaving a strong shared cultural legacy.

Topics Covered

Saturday morning cartoons Television history Advertising to children Violence in media Sugar consumption Educational television Schoolhouse Rock Deregulation Consumerism Nostalgia

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Quick Takeaways

  • Saturday morning cartoons created a weekly shared cultural ritual for kids, especially in the US, that combined four-hour animation blocks with kid-targeted advertising.
  • From the 1960s through the 1980s, cartoons evolved from theatrical shorts and live-action kids' shows into tightly integrated marketing vehicles for toys, cereals, and other products.
  • Research and advocacy in the 1970s and 1980s showed that young children struggled to distinguish ads from shows and that the programming fueled family conflict, unhealthy eating, and desensitization to violence.
  • Regulatory pushes led to requirements for educational and pro-social content and limits on advertising, while 1980s deregulation briefly unleashed even more commercialized and violent content.
  • The eventual decline of Saturday morning cartoons was driven by a mix of regulation, the rise of cable kids' channels, home gaming, DVRs, and on-demand viewing, with the last US broadcast block ending in 2014.
  • Despite the commercial manipulation, the hosts remember the era fondly as a unifying, joyful part of childhood, reinforced by powerful nostalgia around specific shows, cereals, and even individual commercials.

Podcast Notes

Intro and setup for Saturday morning cartoons discussion

Hosts, tone, and initial nostalgia cue

Josh introduces the show and the trio (Josh, Chuck, and Jerry) and sets a playful tone[1:15]
Chuck starts singing "I'm just a bill" from Schoolhouse Rock, immediately anchoring the topic in nostalgic kids' TV[1:24]
They recall their previous full episode on Schoolhouse Rock, including having Bob Nastanovich from Pavement on as a guest back then[1:36]

Chuck meeting Bob Nastanovich in real life

Chuck recounts finally meeting Bob Nastanovich at a Hard Quartet show in Atlanta at Variety Playhouse[1:46]
• Hard Quartet lineup Chuck mentions: Matt Sweeney, Stephen Malkmus, Emmett Kelly, and Jim White
Chuck describes approaching Nastanovich with a casual "hey, man" and then identifying himself as Chuck from Stuff You Should Know[2:12]
Nastanovich recognizes him from prior email and text exchanges and they have a pleasant short chat[2:22]

Personal Saturday morning routines and emotional significance

Josh and Chuck's childhood Saturday morning rituals

Josh fantasizes about a time machine to go back to 1983 to watch Saturday morning cartoons again[2:54]
Josh recalls never having to fight his sisters for the TV on Saturday mornings; the cartoon block felt like it was entirely for him[3:11]
• His sisters were much older (5 and 13 years older), so their interests didn't overlap with his cartoon phase
Chuck's house had more competition for viewing; he and his siblings raced to claim the big yellow chair[3:40]
• Chuck's siblings Scott (three years older) and Michelle (six years older) were close enough in age that their cartoon interests overlapped
Josh sat about three feet from the TV on the floor, cross-legged, with his E.T. cereal, while parents slept in[3:48]
Josh believes he usually watched the full 8 a.m. to noon block almost every Saturday[4:07]
Thundarr the Barbarian memory: Josh had to leave partway through every week for swimming lessons, missing the end and feeling bummed[4:28]
• A listener later mailed Josh the complete Thundarr the Barbarian series on DVD so he could finally see it all

Framing Saturday morning cartoons for younger listeners

They note that people born after the mid-1990s (or even early 1990s) may not truly grasp what Saturday morning cartoons were[5:07]
Saturday morning cartoons were a shared weekly event: essentially every child sat down for about four straight hours of cartoons[6:26]
• They mention this phenomenon also existed in Australia, the UK (to an extent), Canada, and some Asian countries
The block was packed with ads targeted directly at kids, who were often eating sugary cereal while parents gladly slept in[6:48]
Both hosts felt a real sense of loss when Saturday morning cartoons disappeared, even though they had aged out of watching them by then[6:48]

Comparing then vs. now and the value of limited choice

They acknowledge modern kids might argue that they can watch anything, anytime, including on Saturday mornings, via on-demand platforms[6:56]
Josh and Chuck argue there was something special about a fixed block dedicated solely to kids, when you had no choice but to watch what was programmed[7:31]
They see the block as TV "serving us exactly what we wanted" and not recall having complaints, other than wanting more TVs to watch multiple shows at once[8:07]

Navigating schedules pre-DVR and reading TV listings

In the pre-DVR, pre-VCR era, shows were locked to specific times and channels; you either watched them then or missed them[8:00]
Most families had only one TV until at least the mid-to-late 1970s, so siblings had to negotiate what to watch[8:07]
Without subscribing to TV Guide, Chuck's family used the local newspaper's TV listings; kids would study them to plan their Saturday mornings[9:18]
• They suggest some argue that TV listings encouraged kids to read on Saturday mornings
Sometimes kids faced tough choices between overlapping shows, with no way to record one and watch later[10:01]

Origins and early history of Saturday morning cartoons

From theatrical shorts to TV and Mighty Mouse's impact

Before TV, cartoons mainly played in movie theaters before features, sometimes alongside organ music and newsreels[9:12]
Crusader Rabbit (1950) is identified as the first regularly running TV cartoon series[9:25]
Mighty Mouse Playhouse debuted on CBS in 1955, repackaging existing Mighty Mouse cartoons (dating back to 1942) for TV[9:39]
Mighty Mouse demonstrated that cartoons, while more expensive than "clubhouse" live-action kids' shows, were still cheaper than shows like The Lone Ranger or Our Gang and could be very effective[10:37]
• Early Saturday morning kids' content had mostly been inexpensive local "clubhouse" shows with hosts (sometimes sad clowns), puppets, and kid studio audiences

Cartoons as super-stimuli and marketing tools

They reference prior discussion of cartoons as "super stimuli" that engage the brain differently from live-action actors and grab attention more powerfully[10:49]
Mighty Mouse's success showed advertisers and networks that cartoons were a potent vehicle for selling products to children[11:08]

Prime time cartoons before Saturday consolidation

The Flintstones, Bugs Bunny Show, The Jetsons, and The New Adventures of Johnny Quest all aired originally in prime time on the big three networks (ABC, CBS, NBC)[11:49]
By 1967, networks moved to consolidate cartoon programming into Saturday morning blocks instead of spreading it across the schedule[12:07]
Some early TV cartoons were extremely cheap: minimal animation with only mouths moving and the same voice actor handling multiple characters[12:22]

1966 as the pivotal year and the golden age period

They cite Paul F.P. Pogue's article on Encyclopedia.com, which identifies 1966 as the key year when all three networks ran cartoon blocks on Saturday mornings[13:14]
From 1966 until roughly the late 1990s is described as the golden age of Saturday morning cartoons[13:25]

Cultural impact and "bardic" function of cartoons

Shared culture, bards, and playground reference points

A Beatles cartoon (launched in 1965) was still running when Chuck was a kid and helped introduce him and others to The Beatles' music[13:25]
Historian Joel Rhodes argues that cartoons performed a "bardic function," like medieval bards, by giving kids shared stories and reference points[15:45]
Because everyone watched the same shows at the same time, playgrounds were full of shared catchphrases and jokes that everyone understood[14:46]
• They mention kids laughing together when someone said "exit stage left"-a Snagglepuss catchphrase-because all had seen the same cartoons

Schoolhouse Rock and genuine education

Schoolhouse Rock is highlighted as pivotal, truly teaching kids history, politics, civics, government, math, and English through catchy songs and cartoons[17:01]
They emphasize it was "real learning" done in an "awesome" way, not just superficial messaging[17:07]
They recall that their previous Schoolhouse Rock episode was especially funny, including a weird Chuck Jones impression that cracked Josh up[17:25]
They consider re-running the Schoolhouse Rock episode as a Saturday "select" to pair with this episode[17:32]

Flintstones, the Great Gazoo, and darker backstory

Josh imitates Flintstones-style stone tablet hammering when asking Jerry to note the Schoolhouse Rock select idea[17:41]
They discuss the Great Gazoo, noting he was an alien banished from his planet for creating a doomsday device and was condescending toward Fred and Barney[17:55]

Cartoons, IP, and the deep integration with advertising

Blurring content and ads, and early IP exploitation

By the 1970s, the lines between content and advertising blurred as networks and companies used existing IP to create cartoons and sell products[18:53]
Examples of leveraging popular acts and shows into cartoons include The Jackson 5, The Osmonds, and a Brady Bunch Kids cartoon[19:11]
The Flintstones spawned a cereal, showing how characters moved from TV into branded food products[19:37]

Toys, games, and cartoons feeding one another

Cartoons based on non-TV IP included Pac-Man (from the arcade game), a Dungeons & Dragons cartoon based on the role-playing game, and Transformers linked to the toy line[20:55]
There were extreme cases like Rambo: The Force of Freedom and Chuck Norris: Karate Kommandos, both 1986 cartoons derived from violent adult-oriented franchises[20:55]
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is cited as being co-developed as a cartoon and toy line as part of a coordinated merchandising plan[21:02]
Jem and the Holograms launched as a cartoon about a year before the toys appeared on shelves[20:55]
Smurfs became a huge phenomenon; there were around 100 or 101 Smurfs and a large line of small non-articulated collectible figures representing characters[21:29]
• Josh remembers people going "bonkers" for the Smurfs figures because they were so cute and highly collectible
Similar patterns played out with Strawberry Shortcake and My Little Pony, where toys and cartoons were tightly intertwined[20:55]

Reagan-era deregulation and cartoons as half-hour commercials

By the 1980s, especially under deregulation-minded Ronald Reagan, many cartoons effectively became half-hour commercials for toy lines[20:55]
The integration could be so tight that the in-show characters sold the same toys featured in the episodes during commercial breaks[22:17]

Advertising to children, sugar, and early regulatory concern

FTC findings on sugary foods and ad spend

In the late 1970s, the FTC released data showing companies spent $500-600 million annually on ads targeted at children[22:17]
About two-thirds of all foods advertised to kids were highly sugared products[22:41]
A 1975 nine-month survey counted 7,515 ads during children's programming; 7,182 (about 95.7%) were for sugary foods[22:06]
Only four ads in that nine-month period promoted meats, vegetables, milk, or cheese[23:29]

Concerns about violence, adults, and consumerism in cartoons

Parents and researchers were alarmed by cartoon violence, buffoonish portrayals of adults, and glorified consumerism in both content and ads[23:55]
Adults in cartoons were often either fools or villains with evil plots that kid protagonists had to foil, as in Scooby-Doo[23:55]
Groups like Action for Children's Television began lobbying the FCC in the late 1960s to push back against these trends[25:25]

NSF meta-analysis on family conflict from ads

A 1975 National Science Foundation meta-analysis concluded that Saturday morning cartoons created conflict within families[25:55]
• Kids who saw many product ads frequently asked parents to buy things; being told "no" generated arguments and stress
The study found about one-third of kids reported arguing "sometimes" when parents refused, and about one-sixth argued "a lot"[25:35]

Kids' inability to distinguish ads from shows and FTC's 1978 recommendations

How commercials mimicked cartoons and confused children

Studies showed that young children largely could not tell the difference between cartoons and commercials, since ads often used the same characters and animation style[26:41]
Commercials frequently featured kids enthusiastically playing with toys or mini cartoon narratives (like Frankenberry and Count Chocula adventures), making them feel like part of the show[26:25]
Older kids might distinguish ads mainly by their shorter length, jokingly thinking of them as "short cartoons"[27:31]

FTC staff report and proposed ad bans

The FTC's 1978 staff report on television advertising to children recommended banning all TV advertising for any product directed at very young children[27:31]
It proposed banning ads to older children for sugared products due to serious dental health risks[27:55]
For other sugared products advertised to older children, the FTC suggested balancing them with nutritional ads or immediate health disclosures after the commercial[27:55]

Network responses: Timer, Bod Squad, and pro-social PSAs

In response, networks began running short cartoon PSAs teaching health and nutrition, such as the Timer character and the "Bod Squad" segments like "Don't Drown Your Food"[29:32]
• Timer, who resembled Twinkie the Kid, encouraged kids to eat proteins and healthier foods instead of just sugar
Schoolhouse Rock had already been providing educational mini-cartoons for several years, and the newer PSAs were similar in format but focused on health messages[30:13]

Additional pro-social campaigns and PSAs in the 1980s-1990s

NBC's "One to Grow On" and other celebrity PSAs

From 1983 to 1989, NBC aired "One to Grow On" segments where celebrities delivered short life-lesson messages, ending with the phrase "that's one to grow on"[37:28]
They recall Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" anti-drug messaging and Betty White teaching kids who to call in an emergency[37:37]

NBC's "The More You Know" and GI Joe PSAs

In the 1990s, NBC's "The More You Know" campaign used a star graphic and featured network stars in PSAs about topics like staying in school, becoming a teacher, and recognizing domestic abuse[38:03]
GI Joe episodes ended with PSAs on topics such as stranger danger and safety, concluding with the line "Now you know, and knowing is half the battle"[38:41]
They mention a large number of humorous GI Joe PSA parodies online where people overdub the original animation with absurd dialogue[39:03]

Kenneth Mason's testimony and the shift toward "pro-social programming"

Quaker Oats, Captain Crunch, and content vs. ads

At a 1978 FTC hearing, Quaker Oats executive Kenneth Mason, whose company made Cap'n Crunch, testified that the larger problem lay in cartoon content rather than ads themselves[39:21]
Mason still acknowledged that society needed to rethink how it used the TV medium to communicate with kids[40:01]
Networks and regulators reached an understanding: in exchange for keeping ads, broadcasters would increase pro-social content and PSAs[40:29]

Sesame Street as counterexample

They note that Sesame Street emerged from this climate and demonstrated that children's TV could be educational and non-exploitative, making Saturday morning cartoons look worse by comparison[40:44]

Deregulation in the 1980s and rising cartoon violence

Reagan-era pullback of FCC enforcement

In the 1980s, the Reagan administration pushed deregulation broadly, leading the FCC to back away from aggressively enforcing children's TV rules[42:24]

Violent acts per hour in cartoons vs. prime time

Between 1980 and 1990, violent acts in Saturday morning cartoons increased from about 18.6 to 26.4 per hour[42:31]
In contrast, prime-time shows for adults held steady at only about 5-6 violent acts per hour in the same period[43:11]
Even slapstick cartoon violence (e.g., Road Runner falling off cliffs) was suspected of desensitizing kids to real-world consequences[43:33]

1990 Children's Television Act and the slow demise of Saturday morning cartoons

Children's Television Act requirements

Congress passed the Children's Television Act in 1990, requiring the FCC to enforce ad restrictions and ensure broadcasters met kids' educational and informational needs[44:30]
Networks now faced limits on advertising minutes and mandates for educational content, reducing the profit appeal of Saturday morning cartoon blocks[44:30]

Networks exit cartoons and shift to teen programming

NBC exited the Saturday morning cartoon business in 1992, CBS in 1997, and ABC held out until 2010[44:30]
NBC replaced cartoons with teen-oriented shows, with Saved by the Bell as the flagship, even airing two new episodes on Saturday mornings[46:24]
They mention Mighty Morphin Power Rangers and Pee-wee's Playhouse as notable non-traditional kids' shows in the evolving Saturday blocks[46:34]

Cable TV, educational mandates, and the final end in 2014

Cable channels and EI (educational and informational) requirements

Traditional broadcast networks are required to air a certain amount of educational and informational programming for kids, marked with an "E/I" logo on screen[48:13]
Cable networks like Nickelodeon and the early Disney Channel, which were outside FCC purview for much of this, could devote 24 hours to kids' content without the same constraints[48:01]
Stations like WB and CW also leaned heavily into children's and teen programming, altering the Saturday landscape[49:13]

Other forces: video games, DVRs, and multiple TVs

The rise of at-home gaming beyond early consoles like Atari gave kids a compelling alternative to Saturday morning TV[49:13]
DVRs and multiple TVs in households reduced the need for a single shared viewing time and space[49:54]

The last Saturday morning cartoon block

The final Saturday morning cartoon block aired in the United States on September 27, 2014, on The CW[50:32]
The last cartoon shown in that block-and thus in the history of US Saturday morning cartoons-was "Yu-Gi-Oh! Zexal"[50:24]
Josh remarks that they should have had a bugler play taps, underscoring the sense of an era ending[50:58]

Personal reflection on manipulation, nostalgia, and specific ads/cereals

Realizing they grew up in the most manipulative era

Josh notes he grew up "smack dab" in the most manipulative stretch of Saturday morning cartoons and wonders how he'd differ if he'd watched in other eras[51:11]

Fruity Pebbles Christmas commercial and Pavlovian response

Josh can still recite a specific Fruity Pebbles Christmas commercial in detail, featuring Fred and Barney and Santa, decades later[51:31]
He describes the commercial looping in his head like an earworm and says that thinking about it made him hungry and drool while working on notes[52:20]

Favorite sugary cereals: Cap'n Crunch Peanut Butter and E.T. cereal

Chuck names Cap'n Crunch Peanut Butter as his all-time favorite cereal, with Fruity Pebbles also beloved[52:34]
He mentions often getting generic versions instead of name brands when he was a kid[52:54]
Josh praises E.T. cereal as possibly the best peanut butter cereal ever, with a glossy coating and a sweet peanut butter flavor, likely shaped as E's and T's[53:06]

Reading cereal boxes and prizes like Honeycomb license plates

If kids weren't in front of the TV, they were often at the kitchen table reading the backs of cereal boxes, which sometimes included puzzles or word finds[55:03]
Both recall the plastic license plates from Honeycomb cereal boxes that kids could put on their bikes[54:31]
Chuck admits he didn't even like Honeycomb but got it just for the prize, illustrating how well marketing worked[55:50]

YouTube archival blocks and an invitation to revisit the era

Josh recommends that listeners search online for full three- to four-hour Saturday morning broadcast blocks, complete with original ads, which some people have uploaded[55:36]
He suggests that watching these will trigger powerful nostalgia and allow people to "lose" themselves in the past[57:30]

Listener mail: Cockroach flying into a listener's mouth

Buck's roach story and anxiety

Listener Buck writes in describing letting his three-legged dog Trip out on the porch at night and feeling something hit his head and crawl on him[57:54]
Later, when Buck opened the door to call Trip back in, a large cockroach "the size of a Milano cookie" flew from inside the house directly into his mouth[57:44]
He spat the roach out and tried to kill it, but it escaped out into the night, and the experience still fuels his anxiety[58:53]

Josh's commentary on flying cockroaches (palmetto bugs)

Josh clarifies for listeners that there are indeed flying cockroaches, commonly called palmetto bugs, which are large and can fly[59:19]
He jokes that if you have your mouth open, a large cockroach could theoretically fly right in, as happened to Buck[59:53]
Josh references the species name Periplaneta americana and wishes that Buck's mouth always be free of them[1:00:20]

Lessons Learned

Actionable insights and wisdom you can apply to your business, career, and personal life.

1

Shared, time-bound experiences can create powerful cultural bonds and reference points in a way that on-demand, individualized media often does not.

Reflection Questions:

  • • What recurring shared experiences (shows, rituals, events) did you have growing up, and how did they shape your sense of connection with others?
  • • How could you intentionally create or revive a recurring shared experience in your family, team, or friend group today?
  • • Which of your current media habits are highly individualized, and what is one small change you could make to introduce more shared, scheduled experiences?
2

Advertising aimed at children can be especially manipulative because kids have limited ability to distinguish persuasion from entertainment and to understand long-term consequences.

Reflection Questions:

  • • Where in your own life are you or your family still exposed to advertising that blurs the line between content and marketing?
  • • How might you better explain to the children around you how ads work and why companies design them the way they do?
  • • What practical boundary (like limiting certain apps, turning off autoplay, or watching together and discussing) could you implement this week to reduce or contextualize manipulative ads?
3

Regulation and deregulation both carry trade-offs: loosening rules can unleash creativity and commerce, but it can also amplify harms, especially for vulnerable groups like children.

Reflection Questions:

  • • In what areas of your life or work do you see the tension between freedom and protection playing out most clearly?
  • • How could you evaluate whether a given rule or policy in your environment is primarily protecting people or unnecessarily constraining them?
  • • What is one domain (workplace, community, online platform) where you might advocate for either more guardrails or more freedom, and why?
4

Limited choice and scarcity can sometimes heighten appreciation; having to wait for something and accept constraints can make an experience feel more meaningful.

Reflection Questions:

  • • Think of a time when you had to wait or work for an experience-how did that change the way you valued it?
  • • Where in your current routine could you intentionally introduce some constraints (time windows, fewer options) to make an activity feel more special?
  • • What is one area where you are overwhelmed by unlimited choice, and what simple rule could you create to narrow your options and reduce decision fatigue?
5

Nostalgia is powerful and often rooted in emotional context (family, rituals, sensory details), not just in the media or products themselves.

Reflection Questions:

  • • When you think about something you're nostalgic for, what specific sights, sounds, smells, or relationships are tied to that memory?
  • • How might recognizing the emotional context behind your nostalgia change the way you chase or recreate those feelings today?
  • • What is one positive element from a nostalgic period (a routine, a type of gathering, a simple pleasure) that you could consciously reintroduce into your current life?

Episode Summary - Notes by Remy

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