The Alabama Murders - Part 3: A Peculiar Institution

with Patterson Hood, Tom Heflin, Susan Mosley, Gary Highfield, Chris England

Published October 9, 2025
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About This Episode

Malcolm Gladwell examines the trial of John Forrest Parker for the murder of Elizabeth Sennett, highlighting how medical evidence and timing cast serious doubt on whether Parker actually inflicted the fatal stab wounds, and pointing instead toward her husband, Reverend Charles Sennett. The episode then traces how Alabama's judicial override system allowed a judge to impose the death penalty against a jury's recommendation of life without parole, and how the state later abolished override without correcting past cases, leaving Parker on death row despite the system's acknowledged flaws.

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Quick Takeaways

  • Medical testimony and timing evidence in Elizabeth Sennett's case strongly suggest that someone other than John Forrest Parker inflicted the rapidly fatal stab wounds, likely her husband, Charles Sennett.
  • Despite a jury recommendation of life without parole for Parker, Judge Inga Johnson used Alabama's judicial override to sentence him to death.
  • Alabama maintained judicial override for decades and, even after abolishing it, chose not to apply the change retroactively to those already on death row.
  • Abuse testimonies from nurse Susan Mosley portray a long history of violence and instability by Charles Sennett toward his wife.
  • The episode frames the case as a cascading series of failures in Alabama's justice system that left Parker with virtually no chance at a just outcome.

Podcast Notes

Recap of the Sennett murder and cultural impact

Recap of Elizabeth Sennett's murder and long wait for justice

Summary of previous episode: 35-year wait for justice for Elizabeth and her family[3:39]
Description of an incident where Charles Sennett backhanded his child, used to illustrate his capacity for violence[3:45]
Emphasis that the viciousness of the crime and Sennett's behavior disturbed witnesses and investigators[4:09]

Introduction of musician Patterson Hood and his connection to the case

Patterson Hood lived in the Shoals when Elizabeth Sennett was murdered and remembers the case as a huge local story[4:09]
He recalls the murder being on the front page for weeks and details getting worse as more emerged[4:28]
Hood describes economic decline in the Shoals after the Ford plant closed in 1982, creating a grim backdrop in 1988[4:48]
He says the town has since bounced back and is now almost unrecognizable because of positive developments[5:11]

Inspiration and creation of the song "The Fireplace Poker"

Hood says the Sennett story stuck with him for years, and he initially tried to write it as a short story or book[5:29]
He eventually turned the narrative into a song titled "The Fireplace Poker" on the 2011 album "Go-Go Boots"[5:41]
Lyrics quoted about the reverend and a friend planning to "do her in" and make it look like a robbery[6:04]
The song explicitly characterizes the crime as a planned murder-for-hire scheme involving the reverend

Origin of Hood's understanding of the case from a local police chief

Hood explains that a regular customer at the drugstore where he worked, the chief of police in Florence, shared inside views of the case[6:18]
The chief was involved in police business across the area and used to come in and talk about ongoing cases[6:24]
The chief quickly theorized that the murder was not what it initially appeared to be[6:36]
Initial assumption: two local youths, Kenny Smith and John Forrest Parker, were believed to be the sole killers in a murder-for-hire ordered by Charles Sennett[6:51]
Parker and Smith drove to Coondog Cemetery Road, used Parker's knife, confessed, and were charged with capital murder[7:04]
Their knife was found in a pond behind the house, reinforcing the early narrative that they were directly responsible for the killing
Gladwell notes that the entire later controversy and moral calamity surrounding the Sennett case rested on the assumption that this allocation of responsibility was correct[7:12]
Hood's police source, however, suggested a different story: that the reverend (Charles Sennett) actually finished the job[7:26]
Song lyric quoted twice: "the reverend did his wife in, fifteen whacks and fireplace poker," directly contradicting the official narrative[8:12]

Framing of the episode: Parker's trial and counterfactuals

Gladwell introduces the focus on John Forrest Parker's trial

Gladwell identifies himself and the podcast as about overlooked and misunderstood things[8:47]
This episode focuses on Parker's trial and the many ways the resulting catastrophe could have been averted[9:00]
Gladwell frames the story as a "failure cascade" and explores counterfactuals and what-ifs[9:05]
The episode is titled "Episode 3 A Peculiar Institution" within the larger Alabama Murders series[8:51]

Background and character of defense attorney Tom Heflin

Introduction to Tom Heflin and his personal connection to the day of the murder

Heflin recalls that the Sennett case remains on his mind more than other, technically more complex cases[9:32]
He was driving near Red Bay, Alabama on the same highway where the crime occurred and thinks he may have passed Parker and Smith in their car, though he cannot be sure[10:09]
He later received a call that the court was appointing him and Gene Hanby to represent Parker[10:18]

Heflin's background and the unusual nature of his appointment

Heflin is the son of former U.S. Senator from Alabama, Howell Heflin, and resembles him physically and in bearing[10:24]
He describes being a court-appointed attorney in this capital case as unusual, since zero percent of his practice at that time involved such work[10:38]
He suggests there had been a string of capital murder cases and that lawyers were expected to serve when needed[10:54]

Reconstruction of the Parker trial setting and courtroom dynamics

Physical layout of the Colbert County Courthouse and courtroom

Parker was tried in May 1989 at the Colbert County Courthouse in Tuscumbia, a white neoclassical building on the town square[11:06]
Heflin gives producer Ben-Nadav Haffrey a tour, pointing out the adjacent county jail surrounded by razor wire[11:27]
The courtroom is described as small, gray and white, with a portrait of Judge Inga Johnson, the trial judge, on the wall[11:38]
Heflin explains where the defense sat, where the jury box was, and how some jurors had a direct, close view of Parker[12:04]
He notes that they likely sat Parker in a way that blocked the jury's view somewhat because he was shackled, to avoid over-emphasizing his status as a prisoner

Weaknesses in the prosecution's case against Parker

Nature of trial transcripts and Gladwell's interpretation

Gladwell explains that older trials often lack audio or video and only have flat, context-free court transcripts[12:33]
He argues that once you learn to mentally fill in the gaps, the Parker transcripts reveal a very weak prosecution case[12:59]

Parker's background and mismatch with the idea of a contract killer

Heflin describes Parker as around 18, from a good family, but with childhood trauma and drug problems[13:11]
He characterizes Parker as a kid who had been "drugged out" and did not know what he was doing[13:55]
Parker had multiple prior arrests for minor crimes like breaking into cars and stealing gas and had failed 9th grade three times[14:00]
A psychiatric evaluation noted a serious brain concussion at age two, with 36 hours of unconsciousness, leading his parents to lower expectations for him[14:07]
Gladwell stresses that Parker's demeanor and life history were far from the stereotype of a professional contract killer or mafia hitman[15:26]
Parker and Smith drank whiskey on the drive to the Sennett house, and Parker injected opioids en route, underscoring their impaired, chaotic state
Charles Sennett gave them money to buy a gun, but they spent it on drugs instead, again suggesting incompetence rather than professionalism[14:46]
Their disposal of the knife and walking stick in the pond behind the house, despite abundant wilderness nearby, further underscores their cluelessness[15:06]
Gladwell concedes they badly hurt Elizabeth and took money to commit violence, but emphasizes they were "screwed up kids" rather than hardened assassins

Medical evidence: the knife and timing of fatal wounds

Testimony of ER surgeon David Parks McKinley about wounds and weapon

Dr. McKinley testified that Elizabeth had multiple stab wounds on the right chest and base of the neck, plus blunt-force type wounds on the forehead and scalp[16:30]
He said the chest wounds, caused by a knife, were likely by and large the cause of death[16:52]
McKinley had not previously been shown the knife recovered from the pond behind the Sennett house before trial[16:04]

Heflin's strategic cross-examination about the knife

Before trial, Heflin called McKinley to ask what he would say, learning enough to plan a trap regarding the knife[17:39]
In court, Heflin asks if McKinley has seen the knife; when he says no, Heflin asks prosecutors to produce it, prompting clear discomfort and a bench conference[17:45]
Once the knife is brought, Heflin asks McKinley whether that knife could have inflicted the wounds he saw[18:27]
McKinley responds that he would "frankly be surprised" if that knife was the sharp object that caused the chest wounds, undermining the prosecution's theory[19:09]
Gladwell summarizes: the government's own witness testifies that the alleged murder weapon is probably not the murder weapon for the fatal chest wounds
Heflin explains that while the neck wounds could match the large knife, the fatal chest wounds appeared to be from a much smaller knife that was never found[19:30]

Timing evidence indicating someone else inflicted the fatal wounds

Another government witness, the pathologist who performed the autopsy, described the chest wounds as "rapidly fatal" and said Sennett did not live very long after they were inflicted[20:01]
Timeline: at 11:44 a.m., Charles Sennett calls investigator Ronnie May in hysterics; at 12:15 p.m., paramedics find Elizabeth with a pulse; at 1 p.m., she arrives at the hospital alive[20:24]
Dr. McKinley does not pronounce her dead until 2:05 p.m., an hour after arrival[20:40]
According to the prosecution's own witness, Parker and Smith were back home in Florence by 11:30 a.m., making it impossible for them to inflict wounds that were rapidly fatal if she lived until 2 p.m.[20:50]
It is a 30-40 minute drive between Coondog Cemetery Road and Florence in heavy rain, meaning they must have left the house by at least 11 a.m.
A second pathologist, questioned by Heflin, testifies that if a heartbeat was detected at 12:15 p.m., the fatal wounds must have been inflicted within a very few minutes prior to that time[21:17]
This implies someone else stabbed her in the chest with a smaller knife after Parker and Smith had left, and the only person known to be at the house then was Charles Sennett[22:11]
Gladwell and Heflin outline a plausible sequence: Parker and Smith beat and stab her non-fatally, leave, and then Sennett returns and inflicts the fatal chest wounds before or around his 911-style call[22:27]

Evidence of domestic abuse and Sennett's wife's fear of being killed

Introduction of nurse Susan Mosley and her interactions with Elizabeth Sennett

Susan Mosley, a nurse at a weight-loss clinic in Muscle Shoals, describes Elizabeth as extremely quiet, introverted, and lacking self-esteem, but very intelligent[27:19]
Mosley spoke with reporter Lee Hedgepeth about what she observed in the months before the murder[27:51]
She noticed Elizabeth sitting in the waiting room with a crushed napkin in her fist, suggesting anxiety and distress[28:09]

Revelation of extensive physical abuse

Mosley describes confronting Elizabeth about her fluctuating weight and asking her to close her eyes and name her biggest problem[28:35]
Elizabeth responds that she needs a job, and then shows Mosley bruises all over her body[29:50]
Mosley recounts seeing black bruises on Elizabeth's chest, arms, mouth, buttocks, and legs up to the line where a skirt would fall[29:34]
Mosley says she did not ask questions, just helped button her blouse back up and listened as Elizabeth began to talk about her relationship with her husband

Elizabeth's expressed fear that Charles would kill her

Elizabeth told Mosley she did not know how, but she was certain her husband was going to kill her[30:19]
She had been saving money for a divorce lawyer, who would charge her $400, and worried that divorce would cause them to "lose his shirt" financially[30:29]
Elizabeth said she did not think she would ever be free because she believed he would kill her before she got away[31:06]
Mosley tried to help her find a way out, offering her a place to stay and suggesting language she could use to tell Charles the marriage had to end[31:26]

Official recounting of Mosley's deposition and Sennett family behavior

Mosley gave a deposition, which investigator Ronnie May relayed to the jury in flat official language[31:47]
May recounts Mosley saying that around Christmas, Charles' family from Florida visited and an argument erupted after some went hunting[32:24]
During the outburst, Charles lay on the floor screaming and crying, sometimes seeming paralyzed, behavior that went on for some time and caused his family to leave[32:26]
Mosley said Elizabeth told her that during this argument, Charles pulled and waved a gun in the direction of his father[33:20]

Gladwell and Heflin's assessment of Charles Sennett as central predator

Contrasting the three potential killers

Gladwell emphasizes that among Parker, Smith, and Sennett, only Charles has a documented history of serious violence and aggressive behavior[33:44]
He notes that Sennett was the one who beat his wife and showed erratic, threatening actions such as waving a gun at his father[33:41]
Gladwell calls Sennett a "charismatic, persuasive adult" and a predator who set the entire chain of events in motion[33:49]
Heflin reflects that perhaps the defense did not "try him hard enough," implying more could have been done to focus blame on Sennett[33:59]

Hood's understanding that Sennett finished the job

Hood recalls the local sense that the preacher finished the job after Parker and Smith bungled the attack and left Elizabeth still alive[34:38]
He says the plan was supposed to be a simple staged robbery, but the two "fuck-ups" turned it into something gruesome, forcing Sennett to act[34:27]
Hood calls the entire story awful on every imaginable level and reiterates the verse about the reverend killing his wife with fifteen blows from a fireplace poker[34:50]

Gladwell's reaction to the transcript and transition to sentencing

Gladwell says that reading the Parker transcript, knowing what followed in later decades, is infuriating[35:38]
He signals that the next critical stage in the cascade is the sentencing phase[35:44]

Jury deliberations, verdict, and the use of judicial override

Jury sequestration experience as recalled by foreman Gary Highfield

Highfield recalls the jury being sequestered for eight days at a Ramada Inn, with meals provided and limited interaction allowed[39:14]
He describes being allowed to go home to get clothes and told to prepare for about a week away[39:28]
Jurors were instructed not to socialize much, though they did go to the pool once[39:51]

Impact of pretrial media coverage and jurors' perceptions of Parker

Highfield believes extensive news coverage before trial made the defense's job difficult because people already had ideas about what happened[40:14]
He says that once people form a view, it is hard to change, even in the face of later discrepancies presented at trial[40:29]
He acknowledges that the evidence about timing, the weapon, and Charles Sennett's character was hard to reconcile with their understanding of Parker, who admitted to going to the house and brutally assaulting Elizabeth[40:47]
Highfield personally does not know which of Parker or Smith actually killed her but feels both got what they deserved legally and morally, given the level of torture they inflicted[40:33]
He emphasizes that even if they did not inflict the final fatal blow, the severity of their assault meant she "might as well have been dead"

Jury verdict and sentencing recommendation

Gladwell notes that a dispassionate reading today suggests Parker should have been acquitted of murder and convicted of lesser charges like conspiracy or first-degree assault[42:24]
However, at the time, only one year after the crime, emotions were high and dispassionate evaluation was difficult[42:28]
The jury found Parker guilty of murder but, during sentencing, voted 10-2 in favor of life without parole rather than the death penalty[42:47]
Highfield says many jurors did not want the burden of putting someone to death on their conscience for the rest of their lives[42:57]

Explanation of cascade failures and Alabama's judicial override

Gladwell's "cascade" metaphor and why Parker's life sentence could have stopped it

Gladwell revisits the proverb about losing a kingdom for want of a nail to illustrate how cascades require multiple sequential failures[44:24]
He argues that a life sentence for Parker would likely have led to a similar sentence for Kenny Smith and effectively ended the saga, satisfying justice without executions[44:42]

Origins and mechanics of judicial override in Alabama

Gladwell explains that judicial override arose in response to Supreme Court rulings requiring more structured use of the death penalty[45:14]
The Court created a two-stage capital process: jury decides guilt, then separately recommends a sentence, a role juries do not usually have in noncapital cases[45:48]
Alabama responded by passing a law allowing judges to make the final sentencing decision and to override the jury's recommendation, including turning life without parole into death[45:59]
Florida had a similar system but required judges to give "great weight" to jury recommendations; Alabama imposed no such constraint[46:35]
Over roughly 40 years, Alabama judges used override more than 100 times, overwhelmingly to impose death where juries had chosen life[45:57]
Gladwell cites an egregious example where a jury went lenient on a mentally disabled defendant, and the judge overrode them citing dubious claims that "gypsies" intentionally test low on IQ tests[47:00]

Judge Inga Johnson's override of the jury in Parker's case

Despite the jury's 10-2 recommendation for life without parole, Judge Inga Johnson overrode them and sentenced Parker to death[47:41]
Heflin says he was not surprised by the override and had seen it coming, though he thinks Johnson is generally a good judge who listened[49:02]
He notes that Johnson did not provide specific reasons for overriding the jury, and was not required by Alabama law to do so[48:38]
Gladwell points out the paradox: a system meant to reduce arbitrariness in death sentencing instead made it more arbitrary by empowering individual judges[48:59]
Highfield expresses anger that the judge could override the jury's decision, making him feel that his week of service was pointless[49:59]
He questions the sense of having a jury at all if a judge can simply overrule its sentencing recommendation

Appeals, Ring v. Arizona, and Alabama's delayed abolition of override

Parker's years on death row and hope from Ring v. Arizona

After his 1989 sentencing, Parker was sent to death row at Donaldson Prison in Bessemer, Alabama, near Birmingham[50:02]
His lawyers filed appeal after appeal, keeping him alive for 13 years[50:03]
In 2002, the Supreme Court decided Ring v. Arizona, striking down Arizona's practice of letting judges independently impose death sentences[50:41]
The Court held that the Sixth Amendment requires that, in capital cases, only a jury may make the life-or-death sentencing decision[51:47]
Indiana responded by ending override and restoring life sentences to all death row inmates whose death sentences were based on judicial override[51:14]
Heflin recalls believing that when override was struck down, Parker would be off death row[52:31]

Alabama's slow and limited response to override's unconstitutionality

Gladwell notes that Parker waited years for Alabama to acknowledge that the law placing him on death row was unconstitutional[52:41]
Alabama did not abolish judicial override until 2017, about 41-42 years after adopting it and well after Ring[53:23]
Even when abolishing override, Alabama made the change prospective only, specifying that it applied only to future cases[53:50]
Those already on death row because of judge-imposed overrides, like Parker, remained under their death sentences[53:49]

Alabama's "peculiar institution": legislative refusal to fix past overrides

Historical parallel and concept of a "peculiar institution"

Gladwell notes that before the Civil War, southern slaveholders referred to slavery as their "peculiar institution," a euphemistic way to describe their distinct practices[54:14]
He suggests judicial override is another example of an Alabama peculiarity in law and justice[54:24]

House Judiciary Committee hearing on retroactivity (House Bill 27)

On April 17, 2024, Alabama's House Judiciary Committee holds a hearing on a bill to make the end of judicial override retroactive[54:24]
Representative Chris England, a Democrat from Tuscaloosa and co-sponsor of the 2017 abolition of override, introduces House Bill 27[55:14]
England explains that the bill would allow approximately 33 individuals still on death row due to override to be resentenced consistent with their jury recommendations[56:14]
He frames it as correcting the consequences of a system everyone now agrees violated the constitutional right to a jury trial in death cases[55:51]
An opposing legislator argues that people tried under the old law were subject to those laws at the time, and judges properly used their discretion to override[52:18]
The legislator claims it is difficult to "second guess" or in effect override what judges did when override was legal[52:31]
Gladwell describes colleagues nodding along and labels this resistance as emblematic of Alabama's reluctance to confront past moral failures[53:04]
When a roll-call vote is taken, the bill is voted down, so there will be no retroactive relief for override-based death sentences[53:19]

Conclusion: Parker's lack of a fair chance and preview of next episode

Gladwell's final assessment of Parker's case

Gladwell states it seems clear to him that Parker did not kill Elizabeth Sennett and was back in Florence when the fatal stab wounds were inflicted[53:33]
He argues Parker should never have been convicted of murder and, at most, should have served the life sentence chosen by the jury[53:45]
He contends Alabama failed at every stage: convicting him of murder, overriding the jury, delaying the abolition of override, and then refusing to apply the change retroactively[54:00]
Gladwell concludes that "John Forrest Parker never stood a chance" against the cascade of systemic failures in Alabama's justice system[54:06]

Teaser for next episode on lethal injection

The teaser describes in graphic terms how lethal injection kills by burning the lungs from inside as blood fills them[54:26]
A voice recounts being warned that if they follow the case to the end, they must be willing to witness executions with the prisoners[54:54]

Credits noting production team and collaborators

Gladwell lists producers, additional reporting by Ben Nadav Haffrey and Lee Hedgepeth, editor, fact-checker, executive producer, engineers, and composers[55:18]
He ends by identifying himself again, closing the episode[55:25]

Lessons Learned

Actionable insights and wisdom you can apply to your business, career, and personal life.

1

Seemingly solid narratives must be tested against concrete evidence like timelines and physical details, because unquestioned assumptions can conceal critical errors and injustices.

Reflection Questions:

  • What important decision in your life or work are you currently basing on an assumed narrative that you have not rigorously checked against the facts?
  • How could you use simple tools like timelines, documented data, or third-party perspectives to stress-test a story you currently believe?
  • What is one specific assumption you can investigate this week to make sure it actually matches the available evidence?
2

Complex failures often emerge as cascades of smaller, individually understandable decisions; preventing catastrophe requires breaking the chain at any one of those points.

Reflection Questions:

  • Where in your current projects or systems do you see a sequence of dependencies where one failure could trigger many others?
  • How might you redesign one link in that chain so that a mistake there does not automatically propagate to everything downstream?
  • What small safeguard or checkpoint could you introduce this month to interrupt a potential cascade before it becomes a crisis?
3

Systems that concentrate discretionary power in a single actor, without clear constraints or accountability, invite arbitrary outcomes and long-term injustice.

Reflection Questions:

  • In what areas of your organization or personal life does one person have outsized, unchecked decision-making power?
  • How could you build in mechanisms-like clear criteria, peer review, or transparent documentation-to limit arbitrariness in those decisions?
  • What is one decision process you are involved in that could be made fairer or more predictable by sharing or structuring authority differently?
4

Failing to confront and correct past mistakes, even after acknowledging them, compounds harm and erodes trust far more than the original error alone.

Reflection Questions:

  • Where have you or your organization already admitted something was wrong but stopped short of fully repairing the damage?
  • How would the people affected view you differently if you not only changed the rule going forward but also revisited those who were hurt under the old rule?
  • What is one concrete step you can take this quarter to retroactively address the consequences of a past decision you now see as flawed?
5

Personal charisma and social standing can obscure predatory behavior, making it crucial to give serious weight to the testimony of vulnerable people who describe abuse.

Reflection Questions:

  • Whose accounts of mistreatment or discomfort in your environment might you be discounting because the alleged offender seems respectable or well-liked?
  • How can you create channels where people in less powerful positions can safely share concerns and be taken seriously?
  • What is one situation you can revisit with fresh eyes, asking whether someone's status or reputation may have led you to overlook warning signs?

Episode Summary - Notes by Reagan

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