Cheaper Teslas, OpenAI's Cash Burn, and Apple's CEO Succession Plans

Published October 10, 2025
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About This Episode

Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway discuss Tesla's newly announced cheaper but downgraded Model 3 and Model Y, and what the moves reveal about intensifying EV competition, Tesla's shrinking market share, and the company's stretched valuation. They analyze OpenAI's massive compute deals with NVIDIA and others as signs of a potential AI bubble and explain how AI-driven market gains concentrate risk and give political cover for Trump's aggressive policies. They also cover the surge in gold prices and what it signals about confidence in the U.S. dollar, Apple's emerging CEO succession plan around John Ternus, bank lobbying over a potential Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac IPO, National Guard deployments and ICE raids in U.S. cities, and close with predictions on the Nobel Peace Prize and the length of the government shutdown alongside personal anecdotes.

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Quick Takeaways

  • Tesla's new lower-priced Model 3 and Model Y trims offer fewer features while effectively costing more once lost tax credits are factored in, highlighting how far behind Tesla is falling in a rapidly commoditizing EV market dominated by cheaper competitors like BYD.
  • OpenAI's roughly $1 trillion in compute contracts and tight relationships with NVIDIA, AMD, Oracle and others exemplify circular, late-stage bubble dynamics where companies invest in each other and book revenue from the same money.
  • Scott argues that AI-driven gains in a handful of mega-cap stocks now underpin U.S. market strength and give Trump political cover to pursue aggressive tariffs and domestic troop deployments without immediate economic backlash.
  • Gold's price surge-up more than 50% this year and above $4,000-alongside rising Bitcoin and other "dollar alternates" is framed as a vote of no confidence in U.S. debt and the dollar's status as the world's safest asset.
  • Tim Cook is praised for turning Apple from a $300 billion firm into a $3.5 trillion giant and, at age 64, appears willing to plan an orderly handoff, with hardware chief John Ternus emerging as the leading internal successor candidate.
  • Scott highlights how over-age, long-tenured leaders in Congress and corporate America resist stepping aside, contrasting them with Cook and arguing that clinging to power exacerbates many of the world's biggest problems.
  • Major banks are aggressively courting the Trump administration for lead roles in a potential $500 billion Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac IPO, which Scott says should be allocated by an independent committee rather than presidential favor-trading.
  • The hosts see National Guard deployments around Chicago and aggressive ICE raids as both brand-damaging for America and potentially dangerous, with polling showing only about half of Americans clearly opposed to using troops in cities.
  • They predict a highly politicized Nobel Peace Prize decision, debate whether it will go to Alexei Navalny's widow or a less controversial organization, and expect the government shutdown to last beyond 20 days before a compromise emerges.
  • Personal stories-including Scott's inheritance of a gold coin belt from a family friend and Kara's past arrests-are used to humanize broader points about wealth reversals, civil liberties, and shifting social norms.

Podcast Notes

Opening banter: politics, Kamala Harris, and cultural talk

Kara preparing to interview Kamala Harris

Kara says she will interview Kamala Harris that night and wants to "spin it forward" rather than rehash Biden questions[2:04]
She notes Harris has already answered many questions about why she did not speak out about Biden and doubts a better answer will emerge by asking again
Speculation on Harris's future and presidential ambitions[2:04]
Scott says he believes Harris wants to run for president and that she remains the best-known potential Democratic contender
Kara points out many male politicians have failed and tried again, citing George Bush and John McCain, and argues there is no reason Harris could not try again
Scott's cynical take on Harris's electability[2:01]
Scott jokes that Harris "brightens up a room by leaving it" and notes her presidential run did not make it to Iowa, framing her as electorally weak so far
He reiterates his view that Democrats will nominate a white, heterosexual male over six feet tall, calling himself "incredibly luxist"
Discussion of alternative Democratic figures[3:35]
Scott mentions Wes Moore as a possible exception, saying America seems comfortable with non-white leaders but claims Democrats may not yet be comfortable with a gay president
They praise Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker, whom Scott interviewed for "Raging Moderates", noting his "comforting dad energy"
Kara reminds Scott that he has been "spectacularly wrong" about political predictions, which he readily admits

Dolly Parton, Dollywood, and cultural divides

Dolly Parton health scare and Dollywood visit

Kara recalls a recent scare when Dolly Parton's sister posted on Facebook that Dolly was dying and asking for "prayer warriors", followed by Dolly clarifying she was alive[4:29]
Kara's impressions of Dollywood as a unifying space[4:51]
Kara describes Dollywood as homey, beautiful, not too big, with great food and a Dolly museum featuring the "coat of many colors"
She notes the park attracted a wide mix of visitors: LGBTQ people, "rednecks", and Christian conservatives, and observes that everyone seemed to get along there
She contrasts the harmony inside Dollywood with the more chaotic, touristy atmosphere in nearby Pigeon Forge

Knife and bullet store anecdote

Kara describes entering a massive knife and gun store in Pigeon Forge so her son Louie could buy a cooking knife and seeing people loading carts with large quantities of bullets[7:16]
She asks a woman why she is buying so many bullets; the woman replies it is her right and says she is preparing because "Antifa was coming"
Kara emphasizes she supports gun rights and enjoys shooting guns but also believes in gun controls

Southern universities, wokeness, and parental preferences

Vanderbilt and appeal of Southern schools

Scott notes that as a parent dealing with college applications, he sees Southern schools booming because parents want less "wokeness" and fewer protests, seeking a "pure college experience"[8:19]
He adds that public universities are also attractive because they are a better value
Kara counters that Vanderbilt's draw is as much about being a party school and its Nashville location as about politics, describing it as feeling like you are in a big city[8:49]

Tesla's cheaper Model 3 and Model Y and EV competition

Tesla's new lower-priced trims and loss of tax credits

Kara says Tesla hyped an "exciting reveal" that some hoped would be the long-teased Roadster but instead introduced cheaper versions of the Model 3 and Model Y, about $5,000 less than current models with simpler interiors and fewer luxury features[9:26]
She notes the loss of distinctive elements like the front light bar and says investors were unimpressed, with Tesla stock falling 4% after the announcement
Scott characterizes the move as "less for more"[9:58]
He explains that with the end of the EV tax credit, Tesla could not fully compensate buyers for the lost subsidy; the new Model Y and Model 3 trims priced around $40,000 and $37,000 are effectively more expensive than last month's premium versions once tax credits are considered
He summarizes that Tesla customers are now "paying more for less" given the downgraded features and expired credits

Global EV competition and Tesla's market share erosion

Scott compares Tesla's situation to the historical consolidation of the auto industry, invoking the film "Tucker" and noting that global consolidation is favoring Chinese rather than U.S. giants[10:49]
He points out that GM, Nissan, and Hyundai all sell EVs cheaper than Tesla's lowest-priced model and that in China, BYD's Seagull EV is under $8,000
Scott says the Chinese government has even asked domestic EV makers to raise prices because of heavy subsidies and ruinous competition among firms seen as local "national champions"
Tesla's declining sales metrics[12:03]
He reports Tesla's market share in the U.S. has fallen to its lowest level since 2017
Scott cites that Tesla sales were down 43% year-over-year in the EU and down 6.3% year-to-date in China
He notes that while U.S. EV sales hit record highs in September as buyers rushed to capture tax credits, Tesla's U.S. sales were only up 7.4%, versus Ford's EV sales rising 20% and GM's EV sales up 107% off smaller bases

Product appeal and Kara's EV shopping perspective

Kara argues that beyond price, Tesla's new trims are simply "a shittier version" and not exciting in a market where many compelling EVs are emerging[12:43]
She says she would not currently consider a Tesla partly for personal reasons but concedes that if Musk made a "delightful" car it would be hard to resist, noting she still uses Amazon despite her misgivings about Jeff Bezos
She mentions she is eyeing Kia EVs and other brands, finding many of them more interesting and fresh than Tesla's offerings

Tesla's abandoned robot plans and meme-stock status

Scott says Tesla is shelving its Optimus robot plans, which he portrays as another distraction tactic to frame Tesla as an AI or robotics company rather than simply an automaker[13:56]
He recalls Musk claiming on an earnings call that Tesla would build 10,000 Optimus bots for internal use and that Optimus would eventually account for 80% of Tesla's enterprise value
Scott notes the head of Optimus left for a research role at Meta and confirmed taking a pay cut, suggesting internal doubts about the project's prospects
Stock performance versus business fundamentals[15:03]
Scott observes Tesla's stock is up 14% for the year despite deteriorating sales metrics and calls it a meme stock propped up by Musk's constant promises about future technologies
He asserts Tesla is overvalued by about 10x and says Musk keeps announcing things like robotaxis, robots, or full autonomy to preserve the inflated valuation and fund his broader AI ambitions

Musk's strengths in other businesses

Kara contrasts Musk's speculative robot talk with his more grounded businesses, praising Starlink and suggesting he could credibly take share from telecom incumbents like Verizon[16:00]
She argues he could instead focus on making a fresh, delightful car or doubling down on boring-but-useful businesses like mobile connectivity, but says he seems uninterested in those paths

OpenAI's cash burn, circular AI deals, and market risk

Scale of OpenAI's compute deals and valuation

Kara reports that OpenAI has signed about $1 trillion in compute deals this year with NVIDIA, Oracle, and others; a recent AMD deal sent AMD's stock up more than 40%[17:00]
She cites estimates that OpenAI will burn roughly $115 billion in cash through 2029 and that its latest valuation of $500 billion makes it the world's most valuable private company
She and Scott frame the tight interlocking investments among OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, and other firms as reminiscent of late-1990s AOL-style circular financing

Scott's numerical breakdown of NVIDIA's incentives

Scott walks through a hypothetical where NVIDIA invests $100 billion in OpenAI, which then spends the full amount on NVIDIA GPUs[18:22]
He says the $100 billion equity issuance represents roughly a 2.5% dilution for NVIDIA shareholders at a $4 trillion market cap
Given an approximately 55-point operating margin on GPUs, that $100 billion in sales would generate about $55 billion in incremental profits
At a price/earnings multiple of about 33, those incremental profits could add roughly $1.8 trillion in market capitalization, implying around a 1,700% return on the $100 billion investment on paper
Comparison to dot-com era circular spending[19:57]
Scott recalls late-1990s startups buying each other's software using money from shared investors and warns that when such music stops, declines are amplified rather than incremental

Timing bubbles and limits of expert consensus

Scott notes that when experts strongly agree on an outcome, they are often wrong on timing, citing economists who correctly predicted the dot-com collapse but did so years early while stocks kept rising 30-40%[21:00]
He observes that OpenAI's growth curve resembles Netscape's trajectory and suggests the current AI boom could still be a couple of years away from bursting

AI valuations, Trump's behavior, and market concentration

Scott argues that America is effectively a giant bet on AI because AI-related stocks have driven much of the S&P's 23% gain instead of a potential 23% decline[21:32]
He contends that if markets had fallen 23% instead of risen, Trump would not have the political "cloud cover" to send troops into Portland or raid Home Depots, because he would be consumed with economic fallout
He points out that roughly 10 large tech stocks are responsible for 70% of the S&P's gains, and that these 10 together account for about 20% of the global public equity market's value because the S&P is roughly half of global market cap
Corporate AI ROI and potential trigger for a downturn[24:07]
Scott references an MIT study (which he criticizes methodologically but sees as directionally correct) finding that around 95% of companies report not yet getting the ROI they hoped from heavy AI and LLM spending
He suggests that if big enterprises begin cutting back AI investments due to weak returns and NVIDIA "throws up" with a 20-30% one-day drop, that could trigger a broader unwinding

Scott's personal investment stance and hedging strategy

Scott says he has been buying European and Latin American stocks and is looking for ways to short the "Magnificent 10" via ETFs that sell covered calls on those mega-cap names[24:32]
He emphasizes this is a hedging strategy, warns that markets can stay irrational longer than investors can stay solvent, and cautions listeners not to invest more than they are willing to lose entirely
He notes that with diversification now widespread, distress in one market (e.g., an Australian iron ore company) often forces investors to sell holdings elsewhere (e.g., Japanese equities), making everything interconnected

Gold's surge, Scott's gold belt story, and implications for the dollar

Recent gold price action and Ray Dalio's advice

Kara notes gold has climbed above $4,000 for the first time, is up more than 50% since the beginning of the year, and is on track for its best year since 1979[31:13]
She says the latest rally began around the start of the government shutdown and accelerated after Trump announced his "Liberation Day" tariffs in April
She cites Ray Dalio's recommendation that investors allocate as much as 15% of their portfolios to gold

Scott's personal history with Carson Evans and the gold belt

Scott recounts his childhood admiration for Carson Evans and her husband Charlie, wealthy friends of his parents who threw big parties and seemed glamorous when he was young[31:59]
He shares that Charlie's printing business eventually failed, Carson told Scott she was leaving him, and Charlie subsequently killed himself
Years later, Carson-then a heavy drinker addicted to opioids after back surgeries-drove a canary yellow Corvette to take care of Scott's dying mother, cooking Hot Pockets and keeping her company nightly
Inheritance of the gold coin belt and its misplacement[34:54]
After Carson died, Scott learned he was her sole beneficiary; when they opened her safe, they found a massive belt studded with 12 Indian head $5 gold coins
He says each coin was worth between roughly $3,000 and $10,000 at various points, and at one time, similar Indian head coins were fetching about $18,000, implying the belt might be worth around $200,000
Scott accidentally sent the belt with furniture to a divorcing friend; two years later the friend called to say his 13-year-old son had been wearing the "costume jewelry" belt to school like a rapper, not realizing its value
Scott retrieved the coins, gave three to a neighbor girl who had helped Carson get prescriptions, and says he still has nine coins somewhere but is unsure where they are
Emotional reflection on Carson as a cautionary tale[39:00]
Scott reflects that Carson went from being "toast of the town" in 1979 to a broke, addicted person decades later and that he feels guilt for not visiting her more between caring for his mother and her death

Gold as an indictment of U.S. fiscal credibility

Scott and Kara agree the gold run-up reflects diminished faith in the U.S. dollar and U.S. debt, with foreign central banks increasingly turning to gold instead of treasuries[39:20]
They reference Ken Griffin's view that investors are treating gold and assets like Bitcoin as "dollar alternates" and seeing gold as a safer asset than the dollar, which both find concerning
Dollar as invisible carrier strike force[41:35]
Scott describes the U.S. dollar as an "invisible" but most powerful carrier strike force, since most global transactions must clear through dollars, giving U.S. sanctions real teeth
He notes that while nothing yet clearly rivals the dollar, the fact that gold is above $4,000 and dollar alternatives are surging "doesn't speak well" of U.S. policy and long-term confidence

Apple CEO succession and leadership turnover

John Ternus as frontrunner to succeed Tim Cook

Kara notes reports that Tim Cook may step down as Apple CEO in the near future and that hardware engineering chief John Ternus has emerged as the clear frontrunner to replace him[43:03]
She says Ternus, age 50, is the same age Cook was when he became CEO, has frequently unveiled new Macs and iPads, and brings a strong technology background, unlike prior operations- or sales-focused candidates
She mentions Jeff Williams had previously been viewed as the likely successor but appears to have been eclipsed by Ternus

Tim Cook's performance and example of stepping aside

Scott calls Apple arguably the best-run company in the world over the last 20-30 years and credits Cook with growing its market cap from about $300 billion to $3.5 trillion[45:57]
He argues the biggest lesson from Apple is that leaders should know when to leave, blasting aging leaders in Congress and figures like Bob Iger who refuse to step aside
He praises Cook, age 64, for apparently recognizing it may be time for someone else, saying Cook has nothing left to prove and should enjoy life while perhaps remaining on the board

Boards, term limits, and CEO overreach

Scott says he imposes a four-year term limit on his own board service so he can do varied things and avoid becoming co-opted by friendships with CEOs[48:23]
He explains that board members often grow close to CEOs, start vacationing and playing golf with them, and become less willing to replace them even when age or performance suggest they should
He insists good boards conduct executive sessions without the CEO for 15-30 minutes every meeting to candidly assess their performance, with the chair then delivering feedback
He notes that in many Fortune 500 boards, this does not happen and board members get "paid off" or become interested mainly in securing other board seats, losing independence
Kara on Iger and dissenting voices[52:02]
Kara, who knows Bob Iger, says he actively seeks out people who disagree with him and does not shy away from conflicting opinions, though she still agrees Disney should handle succession more decisively

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac IPO politics and bank lobbying

Banks courting Trump administration for IPO roles

Kara says CEOs of the six largest U.S. banks met with the Trump White House to jockey for roles in an anticipated IPO of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac[52:23]
She notes the administration is targeting a combined valuation of $500 billion and a capital raise of roughly $30 billion, which could make it the largest IPO in history

Scott's critique of presidential influence over syndicates

Scott argues the president should recuse himself from decisions about underwriting syndicates and appoint an independent panel to choose banks based on maximizing distribution and minimizing fees[53:52]
He predicts Trump will instead favor large brands like JPMorgan, Goldman Sachs, or Morgan Stanley and reward allies who say nice things about him and show up at the White House
He ties this to broader autocratic tendencies where presidents both punish enemies and over-reward allies, starving smaller and mid-sized firms that lack direct access of opportunities and ultimately hurting the economy

National Guard deployments, ICE raids, and public reaction

National Guard in Chicago and Insurrection Act rhetoric

Kara notes that 500 National Guard members are currently in the Chicago area despite a lawsuit; they are reportedly stationed outside the city limits[57:22]
She says Trump has repeatedly stated he would invoke the Insurrection Act if necessary, allowing him to deploy the military domestically and federalize National Guard units under certain conditions
She cites polling that 58% of Americans, including about half of Republicans, believe armed troops should only be sent in response to external threats

Scott's concerns about propaganda, division, and risk of violence

Scott says future generations will be horrified at how much "mind control" was exerted by profit-seeking actors unconcerned with citizens' emotional and financial health, pushing society toward ugly places[58:52]
He describes seeing disturbing images of ICE raids that make him feel ashamed about America and believes adversaries see this internal turmoil as an opportunity to act elsewhere
He warns that federalized troops in cities create a high risk that someone-either civilians or troops-could start shooting, with catastrophic consequences and further steps toward fascism

Public opinion and polling on domestic troop deployments

Kara says she has not encountered conservatives who support putting troops in cities and believes most people dislike the idea, distinguishing between tolerance and active support[1:01:04]
They review poll numbers: 47% oppose deployments in D.C., 46% oppose them in Memphis, 49% oppose using the National Guard for law enforcement in cities, and 52% oppose such deployments in their own local area
Scott is troubled that only about half clearly oppose these deployments, suggesting a significant share of the public is either supportive or ambivalent

Triggers for backlash and comparison to other controversies

Scott contrasts the relatively muted reaction to ICE raids and masked federal agents with the strong outcry over Jimmy Kimmel's cancellation, observing that the latter unexpectedly became a bigger red-line moment[1:03:01]
Kara responds that slow-burn issues like civil rights and Vietnam in the 1960s only reached a tipping point after catalyzing violent incidents, and she expects a similar dynamic here

Scott's suggestion that a politician get arrested in protest

Scott recounts advising a would-be presidential candidate that the smartest move now might be to openly resist and get arrested over these policies, framing it as a powerful symbolic act[1:06:06]
He believes whichever high-profile governor is first arrested for defying these actions could leap to the front of the presidential field by signaling clear opposition

Predictions on Nobel Peace Prize and government shutdown

Nobel Peace Prize speculation

Kara notes the Nobel committee made its decision before the Gaza deal was announced and predicts Alexei Navalny's spouse will receive the Peace Prize on his behalf[1:06:32]
Scott opts for "other" and expects the prize to go to an organization-citing possibilities like Sudan's emergency response rooms or the International Criminal Court-arguing the committee will avoid further politicization

Government shutdown duration and market context

They mention betting odds suggesting a 62% chance the shutdown lasts more than 20 days and note growing flight delays, including Kara's own experience traveling from the Midwest[1:08:12]
Scott predicts the shutdown will last longer than 20 days but expects Republicans to offer something that allows Democrats to claim victory; Kara jokingly predicts 47 days, mirroring Trump's desired presidential number
They worry that a prolonged shutdown could severely impact FAA operations and air traffic controllers, potentially affecting their own live tour logistics

Kara's arrest stories and social norms

Moped stop and refusal to consent to search

Kara describes being stopped while riding a moped in Washington, D.C., during a period of crack-related crime when dealers often used mopeds, and officers wanting to search her under-seat compartment[1:10:02]
She refused consent, was handcuffed, placed in a paddy wagon, and jailed; her friend and fellow Washington Post intern Renee Sanchez came to get her and laughed about the episode

Arrest for indecent exposure while making out in a park

Kara recounts falling asleep partially naked in a public park while making out with a woman and being arrested for what she describes as indecent exposure[1:11:23]
She emphasizes that at the time, being outed as a lesbian was dangerous and highly stigmatized, especially with police, making the experience frightening beyond the legal issue
She says they were ultimately let go with a warning and a summons, contrasting that with the moped arrest where she was actually jailed

TSA handcuff anecdote

Kara tells a short story about buying a pair of handcuffs as a novelty item in New Orleans, forgetting they were in her bag, and having TSA pull them out and dangle them in front of her at security[1:13:23]
She clarifies she dislikes handcuffs personally and had bought them as a gift for a friend

Prof G Markets clip and importance of statistical agencies

Underfunding U.S. statistical agencies

In a clip from Prof G Markets, economist Catherine A. Edwards argues you cannot effectively manage a $30 trillion economy if you are starving statistical agencies of funds, which she says the U.S. has done for 15 years[1:12:29]
She cites actions like firing the Bureau of Labor Statistics commissioner and halting government data collection as pushing an already problematic situation "over the edge" and urges renewed investment in data infrastructure

Listener shout-out and kids, media, and journalism

Marie Samuels and youth journalism

Kara gives a shout-out to fifth grader Marie Samuels, who approached her at an event in Minneapolis and asked an insightful question about kids and social media[1:13:12]
She notes that Marie started a fourth-grade newspaper, has since moved to fifth grade, and that the paper is impressive, predicting Marie will be an amazing journalist

Lessons Learned

Actionable insights and wisdom you can apply to your business, career, and personal life.

1

When you see companies engaging in circular deals-investing large sums into partners who immediately spend that money back on their products-you should treat the resulting revenues and valuations with skepticism and focus instead on real profitability and return on investment.

Reflection Questions:

  • Where in your industry or portfolio might you be seeing "round-tripping" value that looks impressive on paper but doesn't actually change the underlying economics?
  • How could you adjust your evaluation of opportunities to emphasize cash flows and genuine ROI instead of headline deal sizes or valuation spikes?
  • What specific metric or simple calculation could you start tracking this quarter to distinguish between sustainable growth and bubble-like financial engineering?
2

Extreme concentration of gains in a handful of assets can make systems look strong while actually increasing fragility, so diversification and deliberate hedging are essential even when the winners seem unstoppable.

Reflection Questions:

  • How much of your current financial or career upside is tied to a small number of companies, clients, or technologies behaving exactly as expected?
  • In what ways could you diversify your skills, relationships, or investments so that a downturn in one dominant area doesn't cascade through your entire life or business?
  • What modest hedge-financial, professional, or operational-could you put in place this month that would protect you if today's market darlings suddenly lost favor?
3

Effective leadership includes recognizing when it's time to step aside and thoughtfully plan succession, rather than clinging to power until circumstances or performance force a change.

Reflection Questions:

  • Which roles or responsibilities in your life might now be better handled by someone younger, closer to the front lines, or with a different skill set than yours?
  • How could you start grooming one or two specific people to take on more responsibility so that transitions are orderly rather than chaotic?
  • What personal fears or identity issues come up when you imagine voluntarily relinquishing a prestigious role, and how might you address them constructively?
4

Strong governance requires independent oversight and honest feedback mechanisms-like executive sessions without the CEO-so that boards and advisors don't become captured by likability, habit, or financial incentives.

Reflection Questions:

  • In your organization, where are decisions effectively being made in the parking lot by a small inner circle instead of through transparent structures?
  • How could you formalize at least one recurring forum where key people can speak candidly about leadership performance without that leader present?
  • What conflicts of interest-social, financial, or reputational-might be quietly undermining your ability or your board's ability to challenge the status quo?
5

Macro signals such as surging gold prices, rising "dollar alternates", and militarized domestic policy are not just abstract trends; they are feedback on institutional trust and should prompt both personal risk management and civic engagement.

Reflection Questions:

  • What recent economic or political signals have you mentally dismissed as "noise" that might actually be saying something important about underlying trust in institutions you rely on?
  • How could you adjust your personal finances or business planning to be more resilient if confidence in your home country's currency or governance deteriorated further?
  • In what concrete ways-voting, supporting organizations, or speaking out-could you contribute to strengthening the institutions you most depend on instead of assuming they will hold by default?

Episode Summary - Notes by Skylar

Cheaper Teslas, OpenAI's Cash Burn, and Apple's CEO Succession Plans
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